Rolf wrote:
thissteve wrote in message
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Lobo deVolf wrote:
The true believer is doing what they do out of FEAR and the hope
of
some

reward when they die.

I had no idea I thought that way. I thought morality for the
believer
stems from obedience to God out of gratitude for what God has done
for
them. Thanks for clarifying what's going on in my head.


While I belive that just as animals are capable of, and display a lot
of
very moral behaviour, humans also are created with the same instincts
and
senses as any other animal. Notwithstanding the gentic differences
making us
somewhat special among the primates. Taking care of infants,
cooperation,
and so on - just as visible in the animal word. Adn look at elephants
grieving (if that is what it is, they are not unconcerned) their
dead.

What would the world look like if all atheists were the monsters that
Christians seem to think they must be?

While the reality is that atheists as a rule are just as moral, and
evne can
surpaass the average Christian in morality. How is that possible?
Christian
hubris.

Rolf Aalberg

For sure I am more moral than the fundies. At least I don't go around
lying about science.

Harry K