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Old August 21st 05, 12:57 PM
Fantastic Derek
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I'm in Reading. I think he will do a swap on the filters so I might
jsut go for it.

Cheers



On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 10:11:09 +0100, "Gill Passman"
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"Fantastic Derek" wrote in message
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I actually live near several Maidenhead Aquatics - the one at Henley
is the closest - very helpful chap although this is the guy that wants
me to buy the external filter now.

I have a smaller tank already with some danios, mollies, rams and
thick lipped gouramis, but my wife really wants some angel fish and I
love clown loaches so I thought it best to get a bigger tank,
epsecially considering my molly population recently increased
dramatically. My thnking is that this wouldn't be that many fish
initially (15 plus 6 baby mollies) so wouldn't require a huge amount
of filtration. What do you reckon?

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:25:34 +0100, "Gill Passman"
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"Fantastic Derek" wrote in message
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Very helpful.

I'm not planning on putting loads of fish in, at least not at first.
Is it ok to add extra filtration later on or should I go for the
external filter right now?

Thanks again


On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 19:07:15 +0100, "Gill Passman"
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"Fantastic Derek" wrote in message
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Hi

AS I've said in a previous post, I am thinking of buying a 4ft tank.

I
was looking at ebay and other second hand sources, but the prices

they
are going for are putting me off as my LFS has a kit from Fluval

that
is brand new and costs not much more. I had a friend who bought a
second hand tank and after a few years it burst causing a lot of
damage and loss of fish.

The kit is the Fluval Duo Deep 1200 Aquarium Set which comes with a
Fluval 4 Plus Underwater Filter. My question is, is this a strong
enough filter for the job? The guy at the shop is trying to sell me

an
external filter as well, but I don't really want to spend more than

I
have to.

Many thanks

I have got two of these tanks - one is a general Community Tank and

the
other is a Malawi.

The general Community Tank currently has the Fluval 4 but I have also

got
a
Fluval 404 external (overkill I know - I meant to pick up a 304
external).
The Malawi tank has a Fluval 304 external - the LFS traded it for the
Fluval
4 when I bought the tank so I got it relatively cheap. The Fluval
externals
appear to be quite heavily discounted over here (UK) where I shop so

this
could be an option for you (the trade).

Whether the Fluval 4 is up to the job would greatly depend on the

number
of
fish that you are intending on putting in the tank. Both of mine run
close
to the margins which is why I opted for the Externals.

Hope this helps
Gill


With the Community Tank we went with the internal to start and added the
external later so it's not really a great issue as long as you run the

two
together to start with - or at least move the filter sponges into the
external when you do the swop. By the time (6 months later) when I did

the
Malawi tank I went with the external right awa;y - as we also did with my
son's 30gall upstairs. The advantage I found with going for the externals
right away on the Malawi and the 30 gall was that I was able to do the

trade
immediately when I bought the tanks and save some money (with these tank
packages the filters are still boxed so they can sell them on). This was
both my local "Maidenheads" - I don't know if you live near one but worth
checking out.

In my favourite "Maidenhead" the main display tank is a 1200 with a 204

and
internal 4 - they keep telling me they are living on a "wing and a

prayer"
as it is over-stocked by at least 50% but the tank has been good and very
beautiful for at least 6 months. One of the staff members I've been

chatting
to would not run her tanks without an external....

What type of fish are you planning on keeping? and how many?

Gill


I would always go with the advice that you get from Henley "Maidenhead" -
that is the one I prefer to use myself. Ask him if he will do a swop on the
filters, although it was Hare Hatch that I got to do the swop. BTW you will
also have seen the Display Tank that I was referring to - couldn't do that
one without extra filtration :-)

You must be quite close to where I am then....

Gill