Relax Wayne!
You sound like a little upset kid!
I am not telling dude! remember, it is just my imagination, none of this is
real to you, don't worry, you keep it up with your systems that I will stay
in my own world.

jrs
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Going 8 months without a water change is not impressive. It's no big deal.
It's not a great accomplishment. Going 8 months without a water change is
nothing. It's like a person saying that they had a goldfish live for a
wopping 2 years. Big deal. That's nothing.

But how about putting a picture of your inhabitants on your web site for
us to see.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



J R-S wrote on 3/25/2006 8:27 AM:
Listen Don!
I just came here with an alternative to expensive aquariums. My
aquariums by any means will be as good as any put together by a
professional aquarist. That is not my intention.
I developed a fish-with-little-coral tank that has been working for more
than 8 months without a water change.
Not telling that to new aquarists and instead saying that the only
alternative is an overrated ilumination system is irresponsible.
But, they are free people, they can make their own choice, can't they?
so, don't make the choice for them...

jrs
"Don Geddis" wrote in message
...
AverageSchmuck wrote on Fri, 24 Mar 2006:
Seriously why should it bother you that someone out their feels your
wasting your money.. Do you feel like your wasting your money?
His opinion of whether I'm wasting my money doesn't bother me at all.

The replies were all in service of innocent new reefkeepers. Novices
would
pose a typical question, and Jaime would laugh at them and tell them
they're
wasting their money. The more experienced reefkeepers on this group
wanted
to set the record straight for the benefit of the lurkers, who might
otherwise
believe that Jaime's claims were the collected wisdom of reef aquarists.

Now that portion below has me .. You say "not facts, claims, or
credentials" but wasnt it you that laughed at him over the fact he is
hmm what was the tone you used .. oh yeah in a manner that you
appeared to be better or above him cause you attained a comp sciene
PHD 10 years ago. Seems to me it more about credentials than you say.
You missed the sarcasm of my post. When a guy tells you over and over
again
"you're all ignorant -- believe me because I'm a Marine Biologist!",
then it's
kind of funny if he turns out to have far fewer qualifications than many
of
the other posters here (who, in turn, don't bother listing their
background).

I mentioned my PhD just for the irony. It doesn't matter to _me_, and
it
shouldn't matter to the group (for which it's basically irrelevant).
But for
a guy like Jaime, who claimed that we were all ignorant and he was the
only
scientist here, I find it funny that I'm at least qualified to tell who
a
good scientist is, and in the end it turns out that he isn't much of
one.

This is all on top of the fact that it shouldn't matter whether you're a
formal
scientist or not. What most people here are interested in is the
details of
what you've actually done with reef aquariums, and what you observed
while
doing it. How was your tank set up? What grew? How fast? What died?

I'm sure everyone's got their own pet theories about what matters. But
the
ocean is incredibly complex, and it's hard to be sure we have the full
story
about any particular species. So theories aren't generally as important
in
the hobby as actual data. What (exactly!) did you do, and what
happened?

Jaime's frustrating mostly because he makes enticing claims, that we
would all
love to be true, but then refuses to provide any public data backing it
up.
And then attempts to mock everyone else for wasting their money. It's
an
unfortunate arrogance of a not-quite-authority figure.

-- Don
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