"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 14:23:44 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
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"Nikki" wrote in message
m...
Guys, Have a question, I had posted the other day about my filter I
needed
the extension tube, well I got one and it was the wrong size for my big
whisper, but fit my other filter I had in the closet that is much
smaller
its for about a 30 gl tank, so I took the big whisper off and replaced
it with (cant think of name brand) just like a whisper but more rounded
instead of squared (same setup), I was worried about it not being strong
enough to keep the tank clean but figured I would use it until I found
the
extension tube I needed, about ten minutes ago I found one of my black
moor's stuck to it, I pulled him off but it was to late.... : (

If the replacement is smaller than the one you replaced, I doubt if it
was the cause of the moor's death. I doubt a larger filter would have
caused it either. More like the moor was severely weakened from
something else and just floated into the filter inlet. Filter inlet is
where we often find our dead fish. It would take a pretty strong
filter to suck in a healthy black moor.

Cover the ends of all intakes with SPONGES!!!!

This might slow down the moor drifting to the inlet, but it would end
up there eventually.

Now I am sitting here watching my red caps swim up to it as if they are
sniffing it, they are much smaller then the moor, so if by change it was
to strong they would get stuck quicker then the moor who was bigger then
them.
One other thing I noticed for the last two days the black moor (I have
three so cant say for sure it was him) was down at the bottom corner a
lot
not swimming with the other guys.

You are answering your own questions. He may have been afixin' to die
for a couple of days.

That's not a real good sign.

But he was eating and other then that seemed
fine. Should I be worried about filters with these guys? is it likely he
got stuck because he was all ready sick? and should I be watching for
something since I don't know why he died? and now that I am worried
about
fish getting stuck to the filter they have all decided to swim back and
forth by the filter...eww

No you shouldn't be worried about filters with your fish.
Yes, you need to be watching all of your fish. And testing your water.
I've never covered a filter inlet with a sponge unless I was dealing
with new fry. Healthy adult fish don't get sucked into filters. If
they did, filter engineers would be out of work.

Did you get that water test kit yet?

-- Mister Gardener


No its sunday....all my local stores are closed. However i did check the
ammonia again and the thing did not turn yellow, as a matter a fact it was
not even tinted yellow.. which i thought it should be a little, and I sent a
sample of their water to my next door neighbors house after the moor died i
think she said she uses those dip stick tests but said they all looked
normal according to the chart on the box.
best i can do till tomorrow...I been watching all the others and they seem
fine, i feed them and watched to make sure they were eating and they were
all being pigs as normal, I inspected the dead moor and did not see nothing
that stood out to me as being wrong, i thought his belly was a little bigger
then it should be but its hard to tell with them.
The filter should be fine i have seen a couple go over when a piece of food
was on it and eat the food that was stuck.
I guess i will just watch them close but i guess the only thing i can watch
for is them not to be swimming around a lot.
Nik