"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:11:54 -0400, "Nikki"
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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:26:35 -0500, "Koi-Lo"
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"Mister Gardener" wrote in message
m...
Number two gone. The two remaining appear to have drawn powers from
the two deceased. I did a 20% water change and right now they are all
over the tank, looking terrific. But. The two dead ones look really
skinny. I'm wondering if they were malnourished - stopped eating for
some reason and no one noticed. 16 hours till the warranty expires.

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You may consider doing what I did and take the last ones back. WW
didn't
hassle me at all. They refunded my money.

I'm not sure what WW is, but I didn't buy them there. I'll see how
they look in the morning. I start my day around 5, so I'll have plenty
of time to check them out.

-- Mister Gardener

If I remember right you said these new guys were from the same batch /tank
you got last time, since the ones you got last time died, and the ones at
the store stayed alive... then when you got these new ones home you lost a
couple.. is it possible that there is a big difference between the water
at
the store and your water? If its true that angels are sensitive these
days,
not as healthy as they used to be, could a big change in how they are kept
kill them. Frank was telling me in another post that if a fish is kept in
salt then its reduced quickly it could kill them, so on that same thought
could the store keep their water with salt and you don't, or could their
ph
be very different then yours, or something along those lines? Have you ask
the store what they keep in their tank?
Nik

I think WW is wally world or something like that someone said it before if
i
remember right

Wally World is WalMart? OK. I'm certain the store would not use salt
in their angel tank. I gave them a really long, slow acclimation, and
their pH was very close to what mine is here. I will ask them about
their hardness as well. I have a stable GH/KH now, but my water is
still quite soft. And it can be hard for a fish to go from hard to
soft if the difference is great. I'm anxious to see how these last two
do, they look great right now. And I expect NetMax, Richard, Frank,
and the others will drop a few observations my way. I'll get my money
back. I am still absolutely certain that I killed the first batch when
I dropped the pH to 5 or thereabouts. And at that time I had no
measurable buffering capacity. It was just one final stress on
already stressed out fish. My other fish in that tank remain healthy
and happy.

-- Mister Gardener

that is why I was thinking maybe it was something different between the
store tank and your tank because your other fish are doing good, so it can
not be something "wrong" with your tank /water, maybe just something
different that they were not used to? what ever it is I hope you work it
out, I was just thinking about what frank said and thought about the problem
you were having with the angels so thought I would mention it.
Oh the "WW" I am not sure, I thought koi-lo said the name of the store was
WW, which I thought was Wally world because I heard that name mentioned....
i did not know wally world meant wal-mart (if that is what you meant)
nik