You were implying it. If my word doesn't mean anything to you than why
are you responding to me?

Because I have nothing better to do. And no I wasn't implying it. It
would just help if we could all see your particular setup. I mean you
can't honestly believe that every person in every situation needs no water
changes. Someone with an under-gravel filter for instance has no possible
way to get rid of nitrates other than water changes. But you blindly say,
no water changes.

Ok, let me clarify. With adequate skimming there is no need to do a water
change.

I can assure you that I do not keep an aquarium with dead animals
floating around. Why would anyone do that?

I don't know why people do what they do. My point is, do you have
sensitive invertibrates, such as coral and anemones, or just fish and
rock?

I have fish an anenome (doing fine) and live rock.

It's been tauted time and time again that fish are far hardier than other
reef creatures, and do not need water changes. Nobody at all disputes
this. Some dude came on here and said that for 2 years his wife did
nothing with the tank apart from top-offs, and he didn't lose any fish.
No surprise.

I have read marine books that state that water changes are necessary even
for FOWLR tanks. They are wrong.

This is called FOLLOWING the HERD. Follow away!

Ya, I follow the herd on lots of things. Like I eat 3 meals a day. I
also sleep every night. Turns out I also obey most of the laws set forth
in the books.
You are too funny! Laws set forth in books? If I write a book (hey I even
have a Ph.D.) on marine aquariums, does that make what I state laws?

You're such a rebel for not changing your water, I might compare you to
Fonzie.

I might compare you to a few bovine I have seen.

I have a lot more than my word. I have a healthy aquarium. YOU have
nothing more than my word.

You're right, you have everything. I have no more than your word. Turns
out I only care about myself so that's what's important to me.

Great! You want to perform water changes because that makes you happy.
Why do you feel the need to put down those that have realized it isn't
necessary?

Really? Everyone that writes a book on marine aquariums is the best in
their field? Do you REALLY believe this?

You're right that's what I said, oh sh*t, no it's not. I said that they
have written books and are highly touted. Many, many people have read and
followed their advice and had successful aquariums.

Nope you said "But when marine biologists highly touted as the best in a
particular field write books. "
Are all marine biologists that write books highly touted? How do you know
the difference?

Many people have NOT followed their advice and ALSO have had successful
marine aquariums so what's your point?

If you can point me to one book(actually published and sold somewhere,
not the internet, where any goofball can write a page) anywhere that says
it's cool not to change your water ever, I'd greatly appreciate it.

I said it's cool not to change your water? Oh wait, no I didn't. I am
saying its is NOT necessary.

AND again DO NOT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ.

Or when zoos and aquariums do water changes, I figure it best to believe
them instead of a person whom I know nothing more than being a troll on a
newsgroup.

Note you didn't respond to this. An aquarium with huge volumes of water
at a zoo or what have you. I'm sure it's incredibly expensive to change
the water that they do. Why do they do it, if it's unnecessary.

Probably for the same reason you do it.

Seriously, if you have more knowledge on the subject than every marine
biologist at every zoo, than I'm truly impressed. Oh, they're probably
just blindly following the herd.

I know nothing about maintaining aquariums at a zoo and never claimed I did.
We are talking about home scale marine aquariums.

I'm a troll because I don't do water changes?

No, you're a troll because you're a jerk, as illustrated in your many
other posts.

I'm a troll because I'm a jerk? Why don't you just call me Hitler and get
it over with.

Am I wrong because I'm a jerk?

In what way? Do they smile more?

Yep, they do, actually they seem more active and cheerful.

Are you an LSD user?

No thanks. I don't believe in just blindly following the herd.

Sure you do, just not on this issue.

On what issue do I hollow the herd? Because I sleep at night? or eat food?
This is not following the herd Pat.

$1000's in supplements? Where do you shop? Waynes?

What elements? How much of each?

Read the label on the trace elements bottle you purchase.


What do you put in for your corals?

I don't have coral. Never claimed to.


And how the hell much do you pay for salt and water. I know that a bucket
of salt costs me between $35 and $50 and lasts plenty long I haven't
calculated how much the water costs, but I'm guessing it's less than one
shower or bath costs. Taking water out is not difficult and putting it
back in is easier, so expensive and difficult do not compute.

I NEVER said water changes are difficult. Read this VERY slowly : My
point is water changes are NOT NECESSARY.