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Old November 13th 06, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
bo0ger1
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Default Water change reuse?



Are you claiming to know what my Ph.D. is in?


I'd bet money that it's chemestry, and I'd bet more money that you are not
a MD.


Yep. It's not a M.D. it's a Ph.D. I thought we established this already.

When I want to go to a worthless institution that does nothing but breed
snooty democrats,


How many of those marine biologists that wrote all of those books you spoke
so highly of had Ph.D.'s?

I'll let you know, and then I'll get accepted in any program I wish.


Ok Einstein. Go right ahead.

I assume then that your bachelor and master levels of education were also
gratis?


Another error on your part. You do not need a M.S. to get a Ph.D.

My B.S. was paid for by me with student loans.

So when the rest of the general public is actually making a living and
you're still pretending to get smart, you're not living off mommy and daddy
then?


What does any of this have to do with water changes?

Why such a hatred of those with advanced degrees? The antidepressant or
antipsychotic that you are taking was most likely designed/invented by
Ph.D.'s.

My live rock is necessary. It is helps with denitrification.


No, you could do water changes instead.


Why do you insist on going in circles?

Ok. Lets clear it up now. I left it out because I thought it was
understood that people with marine aquariums usually have live rock. My
mistake.


No people with the widely recognized FO tanks, have no live rock.


What the f***???

Are you sure it is just us two?


Just you 2 of the hundreds that are willing to post on the newsgroup over
the past 2 years I've looked.


Are you really keeping count or is this an exaggeration?

How is this relevant?


you should try corals


Not interested in coral.

Have you? If you haven't than you can not claim they require it. My
fish and anenome are doing fine (close to two years with no water
change).


Sure I can...if I go too long without a water change my corals don't open
as much, when I change the water, they do.


It could be that your bacterial load is low due to all the water changes.
When you wait to long in between changes your nitrate levels probably rise.

Give/sell your coral back to the store and allow sufficient time for your
bio load to grow and strengthen (sans water changes) before adding coral.

Experience.


2 years? I've done the hobby for 2 years now too, I consider myself a
newb...wow, how different we are, must be that false cofidence you get in
college, Dr.


2 years is still experience. I wouldn't expect anything to suddenly change
with my water chemistry after 2-years. Would you?

I never said people have to believe me.


You sure seem to want them to. When you banter back and forth about it.


No. Not really. It does take two to tango eh?

Why do I have to defend it? Why are you so defensive?'


I think that if you post in a forum where people seek advice, you should
be able to provide something other than a statement "Don't change water"


You should be able to provide something other than "You Need to do water
changes". When the truth is it isn't necessary. I am not going to go in
circles with you for to much longer.


When the rest of the world thinks you are giving bad advice. It's the
responsible thing to do. If you are disputing what is by your own
admission printed in every book you've seen....and we've all seen. Then
you should probably back it up, or stop giving your worthless advice.


How should I back it up? A picture will not be an indication of my water
quality.

I for instance think that I could lead the rest of my life almost no
differently if I didn't brush my teeth. So because the rest of the world
does it, I'm going to rebel and not brush. if I rinse with rubbing
alcohol, I should be able to kill much of the bacteria. Hell of an idea.


You are not making any sense. Please stop trying to use analogies; you are
not good at it.


You won't do that for me? I want to prove that corals need water changes.
My corals close up more frequently if I miss a change. So that's my
evidence. But again that's just my word.


Read above comment from me on this topic.
You don't have live rock?


Sure I do, but do I have enough?


How would I know? I have never seen your tank.