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"Tristan" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:42:00 -0600, Zëbulon
wrote:


"Don Freeman" wrote in message
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"Tynk" wrote in message
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Actually, they *should* vacuum the gravel during the cycling
period.

I started lurking here about a month ago as I was thinking about
getting
back into keeping tropical fish. I had been a fairly avid hobbyist
about
35 years ago, and am amazed at the advancements in the knowledge
available. I had never even heard of cycling a tank back then, I
had pH
testing, a couple of anti-bacterial and fungal treatments and that's
about
all. At least from what I remember.

I got my first aquarium in the early 1950s. The changes are
unbelievable
over the years. Pick up some Fish magazines and search the web. The
new
knowledge is everywhere.

Then why do you continually give bad advice Carol? Maybe y need to
buy a few magazines and follow your own advice.....but your info sucks
big time that you give. Your totally clueless and ingnorant in what yu
advise others to do.


So it looks like I have quite a bit to learn before getting too
involved.
One thing that would help is a step by step guide on setting up a
new tank
so that all the details (such as the one above regarding vacuuming
the
gravel during the cycling period) are delineated and put in their
proper
perspective within the process.

Keep in mind what works the best for one person and their set up and
conditions, may not for another.

Yes, but your so far out in left fild most times and thats where the
difference lay. Seems odd a person inthe UK can give advice top a
problem a person has and it gets remidied, and that can be applied to
virtually all, yet when you r caught giving erroneous crapout like you
do your comeback is well it works for me. For some reason or other, I
would certainly not want to do anythng you recomemnd on that kind of
thought process, as its bound to be hazzardous to more than it helps.

Is there a consensus in the group as the
most comprehensive, correct, and readable guide (either printed or
web
page) for setting up a new tank geared toward the new hobbyist?

Just because its on th einternet to lots of foks means it has tor be
right. But then look at folks like carol aka Zebulon. She has a
website and she frequents forums, and is always handing out erroneous
info......Hang around the forums and it does not take long to see who
is giving good info and who is full of **** like CArol and a few of
her supporters of plagarism.

BTW, I am very impressed with the quality of posts in this group and
(except for a few notable but very rare occasions) the civilized way
in
which the discussions are presented.

Hang out and learn......... we all are! :-)
Too bad carol your not hanging, like your buddy Ed Alston
contemplated doing in the suicide groups. Now all the tweo of you do
is trash and make problems for any groups you all decide to hang out
in.




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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!