On Feb 20, 11:11�am, Tristan wrote:
Ah cool fish porn, don't ya just love it. Angels are on my list of
fish to fool with once I can get sopme of my tanks rearanged. I have
basically an entire setup of tanks complete with
racks/lights/pumps/filters etcd, just as yu see installed at Deathco
stores (petco). I have both sides . Deathco here moved and I was told
my contractor they were goping top trash the entire setup of
tanks......it was well worth the time and effort to haul it
allhome.....

Anyway, is aged water a must? I managed to get a spawn from angels way
way back in the early 70's *and the only thing that rings a bell was
aged water, heavily planted and light aeration...right water
parameters...ya got my interests peaked, now I have to start
researching *them. *

What is a recomended size tank to try and breed them in? 15? 20H? I
know the tanks from my deathco setup would not be suitable.

Regards

Hi Tristan.
Aged water....do you mean a fully cycled tank or old water that is in
need of a changing?
That term means different things to different hobbyists.
Honestly, I don't know if they prefer it or not.
It would probably depend on the fish.
I prefer to use a cycled tank for them to spawn in (when setting up a
spawning tank for a pair).
That way they don't have to deal with cycling issues.
As for tank size....again, that's going to depend on the size of the
fish themselves.
Being that I have hard water and they do not grow to full size adult
Angelfish size (although it's not enough of a stunt in growth to
damage their internal organs and make them die a lot sooner than their
typical 8-10 yr life span).
I can keep a spawning pair in a tank as small as a bare 5g with a mini
sponge filter (I fashioned one myself), a mini heater, and tall skinny
piece of slate or PVC tubing, etc., to a 20gH or L, or 29g, on up.
With a normal sized pair, I would say anything from a bare (including
of course a heater and sponge filter) 10g to a 20gH is a prefered size
to use.
If you have larger...all the better. Especially if you are going to
have the parents raise the fry. Then I would say as large as 55g-75g.
I also like to add a heavy dose of Tetra's Black water Extract (you
may remember it as Black water tonic). I like to make the tank's water
look like a nice tea color. In hard water that stuff is a miracle.
In softer water I would say to probably follow the bottle directions.
In my liquid rock water I tend to do it by sight..and add a good
squirt daily until I see the right shade.
Not too scientific here am I, lol.
Now that I have my own RO unit I probably won't use so much of the
B.W.E.
I told hubby....if we ever move from here, the town's water supply
will be a MAJOR issue. I hate this hard water.
The town is building the Ion exchange things in several places around
the town because of Radium issues and they say it'll soften the water
some. I don't think it's exactly the same as RO water, but
almost....or I am totally wrong and it's the same. Don't know.
But if these systems were using an RO membrane it would be too costly
to keep it properly set up.
I know it costs me a lot to keep mine running properly and I'm only
running a 2g tank, or is it 3g. I forget. It takes up a lot of room
under my kitchen sink, that's for sure. Costs us like a $100.00 a year
just for 2 RO membranes a year. If we didn't get 2 a year, it wouldn't
be doing it's job properly.
I'm very leary (sp?) of ur town keeping these systems running
properly.
Our area of town doesn't have our's up yet. I think it'll be a couple
yrs still. We are the old section you know, lol. The town is run on
several wells, so each area will have it's own unit.
Not fun to be last when you're trying to keep fish that like softer
water.