"Wojciech Milc / The Power Of Dreams" wrote in
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U¿ytkownik wrote:
On Feb 23, 12:03 am, "Wojciech Milc / The Power Of Dreams"
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U¿ytkownik wrote:
We have a juvinille malawi cichlid born in our tank (species
unknown)
exhibiting some strange behavior.

How long (cm) is the fish? How old?

S/He is between 6-7 cm and is about 9 months old. The age is an
approximation, for we were not even aware that there had been any
reproduction going on in our tank until we saw "Pee-Wee" as a
juvinille of ~ 1-2 cm. What do you think?

That's just a reason of my question about size/age :-)

You should celebrate - you have a mommy with a mouthfull of
eggs. If she is not expirienced mother, she may have some
problems with feeding during those ~2 weeks, until she
lets the fry go. But she will make it, do not worry. The
next breeds will be more noumerous and she will learn
how to eat without problems.

If this is a single fish of the given species in your tank,
you should not keep the fry - they will be "*******s", and
it is a bad habit to raise *******s. Just leave her in the
tank, and when finally she will let the fry out, the other
fish shall take care of the fry (I mean it will be consumed :-)

As to "stripping" of female and artifical raising of fry, those
methods are also very bad and should not be encouraged. Stripping
and using fry savers makes fish population weaker - because
then even the weakest specimens make it, which is unwanted.

You also should not let the ******* fry go to other people.

-- !
milc - 500L Malawi Mbuna Tank


I disagree totally
1) most mums never learn to eat enough to not lose condition, at most they
get little bits and pieces. Usually they get none. The exception is if she
is a tank all by herself
2) screw other people and there problems with hybrids. They make a good
first batch of fish to 'learn the ropes' with as they are quite a bit more
tough.
3) using fry savers as opposed to keeping the one or 2 that manage to
survive hiding under rocks etc in the main tank does not weaken the
population. That is absurd. All it means is a couple of larger males will
survive. Have bred thousands of these bloody things, around 100 different
african cichlid species and currently have a shed full of fry. Without
stripping and using fry savers there is just no way someone with only one
fish tank can breed enuf fry to make it worth bothering. It also leads to
healthier, larger females who breed more often due to regaining condition
quicker. Is a rare tank that doesn't have a few fry savers floating in it at
my place.
4) As long as the people are made aware they are being given hybrids there
is no problem. I have gotten a few of my friends into the fish scene with
batches of colour enhanced hybrid africans that would otherwise have been
merely feeder fish. Maybe this bizare irrational defence of bloodlines
mattered one day, but for most places those days are gone. The big breeders
will always have pure blood lines. They don't buy off n00b hobbyists mate!
To denie someone the chance to raise up some fry just because of your own
issues is just.... stupid. No one is restocking the lakes from even the
best hobbyists lake! I have 5 species of lake vic atm, all endangered or
worse in their home lake. They breed so often I give away their fry to
anyone who will take them and still have enuf to throw the octopus when I
run outta anything else. Once they hit the hobby, they are just fish and
fish are fish of course of course to most people. People need to relax and
have fun. Yes being sold/given a hybrid and not knowing can suck but it's
hardly the end of the world and it's hardly a reason to cull every time. Try
tell discus breeders to kill all their hybrids and see where that gets ya!
To me line breeding is far more destructive and thats coming from the Panda
Oranda's number one fan!!

I been doing this fish thing for a while now
and it still amazes me how single minded people can be.
Watching fish breed is a magical thing.

Now flame me all ya want
Heard it all before
I mean crap Iv'e bred blood parrots
do your dam worst!
I'll still be here.
:-)

Oh and ya wanna know my best selling African mate?
The rubin red peacock.
heh
never had anyone fazed over that being a hybrid before
EVER!
and it started out as a mongrel in someones tank
ya just never know

Just gotta remember
to have fun
and not make anyone elses life any harder than it has to be
at end of the day it's all that matters
Swarvegorilla