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ranchu wrote:

On Jan 24, 12:37 am, Wildbilly
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Dying fantail, up-side down on bottom of tank for five
days, and
breathing hard. I've changed the water twice, added 2 g
salt each time
to a twelve gallon replacement to a 20 gallon tank, and
added a teaspoon
of anti-ick medication, although there is no sign of
ick. There was
initially a sheen on the water, like oil. I've no idea
where it came
from, and that prompted me to exchange some water.

Any ideas?
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because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito
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Wildbilly,

Sorry to hear of your problem. Sorry I am a little late,
but I have
stayed away from this group because of the problems that
have
occurred. I suspect that your fish has gone to the great
beyond, but
in case that is happens again, there are something that
you can do.

If the fish is breathing hard it is probably a gill
related problem.
Skip the salt, it is useless is these cases, plus,
because of so many
people having been misguided about the constant use of
salt it is
virtually useless against anything, except in such high
concentrations
that you are likely to kill your patient with the higher
salt
concentrations needed. Make sure you water is pristine
clean; Zero
nitrites and zero ammonia. Make sure nitrates are low
also and only
water changes can take care of this situation. Add one
or two air
stones that produce fine bubbles in high volume.

Beings the fish was breathing hard, it is probably a gill
problem like
I said before, so find a med that attacks gill problems
and treat you
fish according to the instructions. Like with people,
stay with the
regime until it has run its course. Do not short change
your patient.

God Bless you and yours and hoping you fish are fine
also.

Ranchu

Thanks for the response, Ranchu. I do appreciate it.

I apprecate it as well. Have an older white fan tail and he
is either snacking or sleeping on the bottom of his tank.
He's
pretty old for a good fish but I'd still like to keep him
around
for a bit longer.

I do have an extra 3.5 gal tank so I'm thinking that when I
clean
the water later today, that I will put him in his own little
tank.
At the least it should take some stress away for him

I'm new here but this post really caught my eye. Just the
post
I was going to write about and low and behol there it was.

Donna
in WA

My fantail died. It was about 5 years old and had shared a 20 gal. tank
with a gold colored algae eater (Chinese I think). As the fan-tail was
dying the algae-eater came a rested next to it for 2 days, until the fan
tail had died. I don't want to anthropomorphize, but it really did look
like the algae-eater was trying to comfort the fan-tail, and afterward
it became very still for the next months, until I added some new fish to
the tank. At which point it seemed to remember that it was a fish,
uncoupled from the side of the tank and started swimming with the new
arrivals. It really looked like socialized behavior that I would never
would have imagined from a fish.

When I've had fish die, it is in conjunction with a foam that forms in
the tank. First along the edges of the tank where the water, air, and
glass meet, and then patches of it that float around the tank. The foam
it is happening again. So far, the only way I know how to combat it is
multiple 25% - 50% water changes, 2 - 4 tsp of salt per water change,
and to insure that the return water from the filter entrains air down
into the water at least 4 in.

Anybody have an idea of what I'm dealing with, and maybe a way to keep
it from returning?
--
- Billy
"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.
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