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Old August 31st 03, 10:23 AM
coelacanth
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Default i know its off topic but its worth a read

These remarks were reported in the newspapers and on the radio--maybe
you need to change news sources?

-coelacanth

P.S. Oh--and on the internet (viz:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/judge.htm)

"Zach987987987" wrote in message
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I say, Hear! Hear! and Amen!



Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe

and
tried to light it? His trial is over. How much of this Judge's comments

did
you hear on TV? Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

Ruling by Judge William Young

U.S. District Court Judge William Young made the following statement

in
sentencing "shoe bomber" Richard Reid to prison. It is noteworthy, and

deserves
to be remembered far longer than he predicts. I commend it to you and to

anyone
you might wish to forward it to.



January 30, 2003 United States vs. Reid. Judge Young: Mr. Richard C.
Reid, hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you.



On counts 1, 5 and 6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in

the
custody of the United States Attorney General.



On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you to 20 years in

prison on
each count, the sentence on each count to run consecutive with the other.
That's 80 years.



On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30 years

consecutive
to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you each of the eight
counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of

$2 million.



The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to
restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre

Bousquet
and $5,784 to American Airlines.



The Court imposes upon you the $800 special assessment.



The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply

because
the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I

need
go no further.



This is the sentence that is provided for by our statutes. It is a

fair
and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let me explain this to you.

We
are not afraid of any of your terrorist co-conspirators, Mr. Reid.

We are Americans. We have been through the fire before. There is all

too
much war talk here. And I say that to everyone with the utmostrespect.



Here in this court, where we deal with individuals as individuals,

and
care for individuals as individuals, as human beings we reach out for

justice,
you are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier

in
any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a

soldier
gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of government

who
do it or your attorney whodoes it, or that happens to be your view, you

are a
terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists. We do not treat with
terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists. We hunt them down

one by
one and bring them to justice.



So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow.

But
you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You are a

terrorist.
A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted murders.

In a very real sense Trooper Santigo had it right when you first

were
taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and
where the TV crews were and he said you're no big deal. You're no big

deal.

What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally able
United States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as

I
know how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What

was
it that led you here to this courtroom today? I have listened respectfully

to
what you have to say. And I ask you to search your heart and ask yourself

what
sort of unfathomable hate led you to do what you are guilty and admit you

are
guilty of doing. And I have an answer for you. It may not satisfy you. But

as I
search this entire record it comes as close to understanding as I know.

It
seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious. You hate our

freedom.
Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we choose, to

come
and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we individually choose.

Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom. They carry it
everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize individual

freedom
so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom. So that everyone

can
see, truly see that justice is administered fairly, individually, and
discretely.

It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers are striving so

vigorously on
your behalf and have filed appeals, will go on in their representation of

you
before other judges. We are about it. Because we all know that the way

we
treat you, Mr. Reid, is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake
though. It is yet true that we will bear any burden, pay any price, to

preserve
our freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not

going
to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow it will be

forgotten. But this, however, will long endure. Here in this

courtroom
and courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see

that
justice, individual justice, justice, not war, individual justice is in

fact
being done.



The very President of the United States, through his officers, will

have
to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which specific matters can

be
judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit and judge that evidence
democratically, to mold and shape and refine our sense of justice.



See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States

ofAmerica.
That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag

stands for
freedom. You know, it always will.



Custody Mr. Officer. Stand him down.



How much of this Judge's comments did you hear on our TV sets?

Please
pass this around. Everyone needs to hear what the judge had to say. And

the
media did not serve the people.