I certainly wouldn't pay close to new price for a 3yo anything either. It
was just one I saw advertised.
X5 isn't reliable? ummmm your right the toyota has had tyres & 1 battery &
oil changes in10 yrs.
Our 2002 Toyota RAV has had a set of car mats & oil changes....Toyotas are
good.

The X5 says it tow 2700kg (braked) which is less than the cruiser @ 4500kg
(braked), but still enough for us.

Room wise I sat in the back seat of the X5 and it seems to have as much leg
room as the 'cruiser but didn;'t feel as 'closed in' as the cruiser.
Possibly because the cruiser front seats are higher, which makes the back
seats feel closed in a bit.

The quited fuel use for the X5 is 8-9litres/100 whic is way better than the
'cruiser petrol (around 15-16 L/ 100)
Are the BMW station wagons better than 8-9 l/100km? (I'm still thinking
diesel)



"GRL" > wrote in message
...
> If someone is trying to sell a 3 year old anything for the same price as
> the new anything, then something very strange is going on...or the seller
> is just looking for a real sucker. This can happen when the new thing is
> being closed out with a fat discount from the vendor. For example, BMW was
> giving a $3800 incentive on new 2005 330i's to clear the showrooms for the
> E90's soon to arrive. Plus dealers were selling them at invoice. This has
> temporarily wreaked havoc on used car values for 330i's, but it will not
> last. Only a relative few cars will be sold at this deep discount and then
> they will be gone.
>
> Now as to whether you should get a BMW SUV if you are used to a Toyota you
> may not be happy with the reliability of the Beemer after the Toyota. Even
> if the cost is covered by warranty, you will still suffer the
> inconvenience. Personally, I just don't get BMW SUV's. They are very
> impractical as SUV's (not much room or towing capability) and
> ride/accelerate/handle/use fuel in an inferior manner to BMW station
> wagons. I mean, what's the point? Get the Beemer wagon.
>
> - GRL
>
>
> <richard> wrote in message ...
>> I'm trying to convince myself (then the wife) that spending the $$ on a
>> BMW is "worth it"....
>> I'm looking at a new X5 Diesel which is 82,000 + On roads (This is rec
>> retail - I'll start the haggle later if I decide to do it)
>> I can buy a new Toyota Landcruiser (to replace existing one we have) but
>> sort of "been there done that" as far as the 'cruiser goes.
>> Our current one is petrol (gas for USA people). and the toyota diesel is
>> agricultural compared to the BMW.
>>
>> I'm not a wealthy person (but our business can cover the lease / HP
>> without a prob). But the 'fear' of driving / scratching such a valuable
>> vehicle does concern me a bit. esp sice I'm sure repairs will be equally
>> expensive (ie if you can afford a BMW you must have a pocket full
>> of $$ to pay for repairs etc) Having said that the BMW service costs for
>> the diesel are a lot less than the toyota services.
>>
>> Depreciation on the cruiser is not to bad, but when I look at 3yo BMW
>> prices.....very minimul depreciation.
>> eg one I saw had some extras + some average milage, and was selling at
>> 82,000 ie same as a new one (without O/R costs)
>> so assuming they sell @ that price their loss will only be cost of extras
>> they fitted + on road costs not bad for 3 yrs motoring.
>>
>> But how do you convince yourself that your first (new) BMW was worth the
>> "extra"? eg I can buy 2 "normal" cars for the price of a BMW!.
>>
>> Look forward to reading some thoughts. Thx in advance
>>
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