> First of all, your explanation has nothing at all to do with "self
> defense". It is an explanation of "fleeing danger", "escaping" or
> similar. To be self-defense he would have had to be driving at daddy,
> not mommy, driving at mommy does nothing to stop the shooting. How is
> running away self defense? That is "self preservation". I myself
> though that a much better defense would have been, "it was an
> accident". He could have even tried the "I was too drunk to know what
> I was doing" but self-defense was a non-starter from the git go.
>
> Note that at the point daddy started shooting, Ellington was clearly a
> criminal (felonious assualt with a deadly weapon - twice) and daddy was
> trying to protect innocent parties (the girls). His shooting at that
> point was justified. Anyone is authorised to use deadly force to save
> the life of a victim. Of course someone doing it is going to have some
> fun justifying it later.
>
> In the original thread you displayed a complete misunderstanding of
> self defense and aren't doing much better here.
>
> Harry K
>

Odd, I was thinking the same thing about you, that you do not understand
self-defense. But it's easy to see how you are confused. You think that
mommy was an innocent bystander who got run over. But that ignores the fact
that the whole family was an illegal vigilante mob who cornered ellington
with no legal authority to do so. It also ignores the fact that after daddy
started shooting to kill ellington, nobody else in the family tried to stop
daddy from doing so. In fact, the rest of the family were trying to prevent
ellington from escaping so that daddy could murder him. So now even you
should be able to see that the family was working *** AS A TEAM *** to
MURDER ellington at a point in time before ellington escaped the illegal
vigilante mob by running over one of the gang members intent on killing him.

The only possible way ellington could IN FACT be guilty of murder (as
opposed to just wrongfully convicted of murder) would be if he managed to
escape the murderous, illegal vigilante mob, and then sometime later
deliberately ran over somebody who happened to be walking by, in the wrong
place at the wrong time. Because once you've escaped, it can no longer be
called self-defense. But when ellington ran over a member of the murderous
mob intent on killing him, he was still trying desperately to flee for his
life.

Again, this verdict was about ellington being a bad boy and the jury wanted
to send him to prison (where even I would say that he probably belongs),
even though he was NOT guilty of the current charges. The current
conviction is utter and total bull****, and I hope like hell it gets tossed
on appeal. -Dave