More clay pond help, Bentonite?

Thanks to those kind helpers.

Research has revealed the existence of Sodium Bentonite powder and
"BentoMat" membrane, which is Bentonite sandwiched between a geosynthetic
layer.

Does anyone have any experience of these products?

Haven't found a UK price yet but the stuff reads like a real cure-all

Blocks all leaks, natural product, self-sealing, natural-looking

Many thanks again

Nick Walker

I haven't come across its use for a garden pond but bentonite-enhanced soils
are used extensively as liners for landfills - they can deliver very low
permeabilities without the need for a plastic liner. A landfill needs pretty
thick clay (about 1 metre) and special plant to compact it, which wouldn't
be much use to you, but there again you are not building a landfill and
don't need such low permeability. A much thinner layer should work well
enough for a pond. You mustn't let it dry out, though. Presumably the people
who sell the bentonite provide instructions?

Let us know how you get on.

Peter

"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
Thanks to those kind helpers.

Research has revealed the existence of Sodium Bentonite powder and
"BentoMat" membrane, which is Bentonite sandwiched between a geosynthetic
layer.

Does anyone have any experience of these products?

Haven't found a UK price yet but the stuff reads like a real cure-all

Blocks all leaks, natural product, self-sealing, natural-looking

Many thanks again

Nick Walker

I haven't come across its use for a garden pond but bentonite-enhanced soils
are used extensively as liners for landfills - they can deliver very low
permeabilities without the need for a plastic liner. A landfill needs pretty
thick clay (about 1 metre) and special plant to compact it, which wouldn't
be much use to you, but there again you are not building a landfill and
don't need such low permeability. A much thinner layer should work well
enough for a pond. You mustn't let it dry out, though. Presumably the people
who sell the bentonite provide instructions?

Let us know how you get on.

Peter

"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
Thanks to those kind helpers.

Research has revealed the existence of Sodium Bentonite powder and
"BentoMat" membrane, which is Bentonite sandwiched between a geosynthetic
layer.

Does anyone have any experience of these products?

Haven't found a UK price yet but the stuff reads like a real cure-all

Blocks all leaks, natural product, self-sealing, natural-looking

Many thanks again

Nick Walker

The BentoMat would be better for assuring a uniform layer of clay and not
allowing the fish to root around in it. The Bentonite powder is what is
used in the koi grow out mud ponds, and they keep it stirred up rooting for
worms, insects, and other goodies. If the sodium bentonite is mixed with
the soil as an amendment, it may stay dry enough to make the expansive
properties beneficial. The part that is stirred up in the water wouldn't
matter if it was sodium or calcium.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
Thanks to those kind helpers.

Research has revealed the existence of Sodium Bentonite powder and
"BentoMat" membrane, which is Bentonite sandwiched between a geosynthetic
layer.

Does anyone have any experience of these products?

Haven't found a UK price yet but the stuff reads like a real cure-all

Blocks all leaks, natural product, self-sealing, natural-looking

Many thanks again

Nick Walker

The BentoMat would be better for assuring a uniform layer of clay and not
allowing the fish to root around in it. The Bentonite powder is what is
used in the koi grow out mud ponds, and they keep it stirred up rooting for
worms, insects, and other goodies. If the sodium bentonite is mixed with
the soil as an amendment, it may stay dry enough to make the expansive
properties beneficial. The part that is stirred up in the water wouldn't
matter if it was sodium or calcium.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Nicholas Walker" wrote in message
...
Thanks to those kind helpers.

Research has revealed the existence of Sodium Bentonite powder and
"BentoMat" membrane, which is Bentonite sandwiched between a geosynthetic
layer.

Does anyone have any experience of these products?

Haven't found a UK price yet but the stuff reads like a real cure-all

Blocks all leaks, natural product, self-sealing, natural-looking

Many thanks again

Nick Walker