What is a refugium?

I know a sump is just an extra tank in the cabinet, but what the heck is
a "refugium". I'm not new, but do explain in simple language?

Thanks, in advance

I know a sump is just an extra tank in the cabinet, but what the heck is
a "refugium". I'm not new, but do explain in simple language?

a tank in the cabinet that grows things

generally things like pods and worms and more that become eaten by things that grow in the
display tank like fish and corals
or that are kinda ugly like algae

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Richard Reynolds

"Richard Reynolds" wrote in message
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I know a sump is just an extra tank in the cabinet, but what the heck is
a "refugium". I'm not new, but do explain in simple language?

a tank in the cabinet that grows things

generally things like pods and worms and more that become eaten by things
that grow in the
display tank like fish and corals
or that are kinda ugly like algae

--
Richard Reynolds



Also somewhere to stick your equipment to keep it out of view in the main
tank.
Protein Skimmer, Heater etc..

Cheers
Microbot

a Refugium is a place that provides refuge for the critters to reproduce. They
were origanlly designed to be above the tank and drain back to the main tank
via gravity so the critters dont have to go through the pumps and have their
exosckeletons for their boddies. Some people use in tank refugiums too. Many
people can not keep a refugium above the tank and then end up converting their
sump/wet-dry into a refugium.The term refugiun is used quite loosely these
days.. Many people are thinking that the macroalgae in the fuge is what makes a
fuge a fuge, but in reality th emacro algae is considered an algae scrubber..
Rod Buehler
www.asplashoflife.com

Also somewhere to stick your equipment to keep it out of view in the main
tank.
Protein Skimmer, Heater etc..


This would be a sump.. A refuge with a skimmer in it woould not be much of a
refuge..
Rod Buehler
www.asplashoflife.com

"Rod" wrote in message
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Also somewhere to stick your equipment to keep it out of view in the main
tank.
Protein Skimmer, Heater etc..


This would be a sump.. A refuge with a skimmer in it woould not be much of
a
refuge..
Rod Buehler
www.asplashoflife.com

That would depend on how you designed it..
Skimmer doesn't have to be in the refuge area.

Cheers
Microbot

I'm still confused. (Simple brain).

"Richard Reynolds" wrote in message
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I know a sump is just an extra tank in the cabinet, but what the
heck is
a "refugium". I'm not new, but do explain in simple language?

a tank in the cabinet that grows things

How can a tank in complete darkness, 24 hours a day grow anything?
Wouldn't the bacteria in the live rock die off plus anything else?


generally things like pods and worms and more that become eaten by
things that grow in the
display tank like fish and corals
or that are kinda ugly like algae

Wouldn't the return pump turn anything into mush?

And are we taking 2 tanks under the cabinate or 1? A sump and/or a
refugium. Are we basically playing a 'defination' game? What's the
difference? A sump is a 30g or so place where you place all the heaters,
electronic probes, skimmers and anything else you got. My understanding
is that the sump is empty (except for water).

Thanks again. I'm glad you are all anonymous so I don't have to go face
to face with a store bot whom I probably know more than he does, but
just don't know it.

This would be a sump.. A refuge with a skimmer in it woould not be much of
a refuge..

That would depend on how you designed it..
Skimmer doesn't have to be in the refuge area.


congrats thats the sump area which is NOT the same.

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Richard Reynolds

a tank in the cabinet that grows things

How can a tank in complete darkness, 24 hours a day grow anything?
Wouldn't the bacteria in the live rock die off plus anything else?

first live rock does not require lights, and depending on what you are trying to protect,
the refugium does not either.

however I did forget to add, generally a refugium will have lights above it. generally the
redest & bluest bulb you can get, as those are the ones the algae likes the best.

generally things like pods and worms and more that become eaten by
things that grow in the
display tank like fish and corals
or that are kinda ugly like algae

Wouldn't the return pump turn anything into mush?

some things yes some things no, depends on many things, pods are generally safe enough to
make it thru a pump w/o turning into mush, they only need to survive the trip once.


And are we taking 2 tanks under the cabinate or 1? A sump and/or a
refugium. Are we basically playing a 'defination' game? What's the
difference? A sump is a 30g or so place where you place all the heaters,
electronic probes, skimmers and anything else you got. My understanding
is that the sump is empty (except for water).

its not a definition game, there is a clear difference, how you build it thats up to you,
it can be a seperate tank, or a compartment inside your sump, the sump is empty except for
equipment, the refugium is empty of most equipment.

Thanks again. I'm glad you are all anonymous so I don't have to go face
to face with a store bot whom I probably know more than he does, but
just don't know it.

im not really anonymous even if you dont know me


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Richard Reynolds

"Richard Reynolds" wrote in
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first live rock does not require lights, and depending on what you are
trying to protect, the refugium does not either.


Actually, this is a question I've been meaning to ask for awhile. In my 46
FOWLR, I have normal lighting, but in my 7gal nanoreef, I have PC lighting.
The live rock in my nano is quite 'live' with critters and worms and bears,
oh my. But the live rock in my fowlr has no such civilizations living on
it.

So would it be correct to say that live rock doesnt need light to support
its nitrifying bacteria culture, but high intensity light IS required for
the live rock to host a broader and more bustling segment of the food
chain?