newbie panicking

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.

I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Tristan wrote:
I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Tristan wrote:
I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

What gives? Please don't bother to reply if you are unwilling to offer
some helpful advice. Don't involve me in your squabbles.
Tristan wrote:
I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Evidently CArol is out peddling her wares. I did if yu read the post
tell you what and where to go and if yu did that you would have
already had yur questions answered and a suggestin made to a cure if
possible. No, yu owud rather **** around and bitch with what was
opsted, than takeup the info and go with it. Hope your freaking fish
croaks now dude, sorry, but your not fit to keep fish if yu can not
take a suggestion and have to fuss in stead! I suggest re-reading that
reply and doing what was suggested if your really at all concerned.
Get the **** over it!


On 14 Jan 2007 10:55:15 -0800, "jess" wrote:

What gives? Please don't bother to reply if you are unwilling to offer
some helpful advice. Don't involve me in your squabbles.
Tristan wrote:
I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Oh dear, aren't you a nasty one!
Tristan wrote:
Evidently CArol is out peddling her wares. I did if yu read the post
tell you what and where to go and if yu did that you would have
already had yur questions answered and a suggestin made to a cure if
possible. No, yu owud rather **** around and bitch with what was
opsted, than takeup the info and go with it. Hope your freaking fish
croaks now dude, sorry, but your not fit to keep fish if yu can not
take a suggestion and have to fuss in stead! I suggest re-reading that
reply and doing what was suggested if your really at all concerned.
Get the **** over it!


On 14 Jan 2007 10:55:15 -0800, "jess" wrote:

What gives? Please don't bother to reply if you are unwilling to offer
some helpful advice. Don't involve me in your squabbles.
Tristan wrote:
I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Yep and I stlil bet you would rather be bop around and reply with
bull**** than go ask on a real forum . So much for your so called
problem with dale There has still yet to be one other reply to your
question, yet yuou were given info to use if yu so desired but you
insist on bitching about it. I just know and wiil bet on it that a
suitabale means of help would already have been given on Koishack or
koiphen since they are realtime foruoms unlike old tech usenet forums
which have seen the better part of light in their lifetime. Take a
****ing hike Jess,.its not like yoiur being hcarged for the info so
take it or leave it or print it and cram it up your ass.its your
choice butthole! Nowhwre when I signed up for usenet was it stated I
had to treat assholes with respect, and your living proof of that!

Care to continue or is it now time to go find those forums and get the
help you fish needs?

On 14 Jan 2007 11:43:51 -0800, "jess" wrote:

Oh dear, aren't you a nasty one!
Tristan wrote:
Evidently CArol is out peddling her wares. I did if yu read the post
tell you what and where to go and if yu did that you would have
already had yur questions answered and a suggestin made to a cure if
possible. No, yu owud rather **** around and bitch with what was
opsted, than takeup the info and go with it. Hope your freaking fish
croaks now dude, sorry, but your not fit to keep fish if yu can not
take a suggestion and have to fuss in stead! I suggest re-reading that
reply and doing what was suggested if your really at all concerned.
Get the **** over it!


On 14 Jan 2007 10:55:15 -0800, "jess" wrote:

What gives? Please don't bother to reply if you are unwilling to offer
some helpful advice. Don't involve me in your squabbles.
Tristan wrote:
I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Be my guests asshole! I have better things to do with my time than
play mamma to a jerk like you anyhow......now go back and have yur
momma change your diaper, feed you a bottle and burp your scrawny
ass. Only a fool would even consider housing goldfish in a home
aquarium anyhow........ Dumbass! Its assholes like yu cut their nose
off to spite their face and prove nothing to anyhone except how
freaking dumb they really are whenthey would rather badger about
soemthing than addrerss the inisitla issue that was of such
concern....Evidently Old Dale kicked the bucket, how lucky for DAle,
hopefully the other kicks soon too since your apparently not in the
least bit concerned wieth the fish as you are at stirring up ****!



On 14 Jan 2007 12:53:50 -0800, "jess" wrote:

'be bop around'........ what an amusing and slightly dated turn of
phrase!
I think I will go with my first instinct and completely disregard that
you even exist. The way that you choose to express yourself can only
be the result of a pretty fouled up character that I want nothing to do
with.
Tristan wrote:
Yep and I stlil bet you would rather be bop around and reply with
bull**** than go ask on a real forum . So much for your so called
problem with dale There has still yet to be one other reply to your
question, yet yuou were given info to use if yu so desired but you
insist on bitching about it. I just know and wiil bet on it that a
suitabale means of help would already have been given on Koishack or
koiphen since they are realtime foruoms unlike old tech usenet forums
which have seen the better part of light in their lifetime. Take a
****ing hike Jess,.its not like yoiur being hcarged for the info so
take it or leave it or print it and cram it up your ass.its your
choice butthole! Nowhwre when I signed up for usenet was it stated I
had to treat assholes with respect, and your living proof of that!

Care to continue or is it now time to go find those forums and get the
help you fish needs?

On 14 Jan 2007 11:43:51 -0800, "jess" wrote:

Oh dear, aren't you a nasty one!
Tristan wrote:
Evidently CArol is out peddling her wares. I did if yu read the post
tell you what and where to go and if yu did that you would have
already had yur questions answered and a suggestin made to a cure if
possible. No, yu owud rather **** around and bitch with what was
opsted, than takeup the info and go with it. Hope your freaking fish
croaks now dude, sorry, but your not fit to keep fish if yu can not
take a suggestion and have to fuss in stead! I suggest re-reading that
reply and doing what was suggested if your really at all concerned.
Get the **** over it!


On 14 Jan 2007 10:55:15 -0800, "jess" wrote:

What gives? Please don't bother to reply if you are unwilling to offer
some helpful advice. Don't involve me in your squabbles.
Tristan wrote:
I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

'be bop around'........ what an amusing and slightly dated turn of
phrase!
I think I will go with my first instinct and completely disregard that
you even exist. The way that you choose to express yourself can only
be the result of a pretty fouled up character that I want nothing to do
with.
Tristan wrote:
Yep and I stlil bet you would rather be bop around and reply with
bull**** than go ask on a real forum . So much for your so called
problem with dale There has still yet to be one other reply to your
question, yet yuou were given info to use if yu so desired but you
insist on bitching about it. I just know and wiil bet on it that a
suitabale means of help would already have been given on Koishack or
koiphen since they are realtime foruoms unlike old tech usenet forums
which have seen the better part of light in their lifetime. Take a
****ing hike Jess,.its not like yoiur being hcarged for the info so
take it or leave it or print it and cram it up your ass.its your
choice butthole! Nowhwre when I signed up for usenet was it stated I
had to treat assholes with respect, and your living proof of that!

Care to continue or is it now time to go find those forums and get the
help you fish needs?

On 14 Jan 2007 11:43:51 -0800, "jess" wrote:

Oh dear, aren't you a nasty one!
Tristan wrote:
Evidently CArol is out peddling her wares. I did if yu read the post
tell you what and where to go and if yu did that you would have
already had yur questions answered and a suggestin made to a cure if
possible. No, yu owud rather **** around and bitch with what was
opsted, than takeup the info and go with it. Hope your freaking fish
croaks now dude, sorry, but your not fit to keep fish if yu can not
take a suggestion and have to fuss in stead! I suggest re-reading that
reply and doing what was suggested if your really at all concerned.
Get the **** over it!


On 14 Jan 2007 10:55:15 -0800, "jess" wrote:

What gives? Please don't bother to reply if you are unwilling to offer
some helpful advice. Don't involve me in your squabbles.
Tristan wrote:
I am sure Zebulon aka Carol will be alaong shortly to give you an
answer which in all reality will be the wrong answer as she is so
adapt at ad libbing lies and making them sound like she knows what she
is talking about. I suggest taking this question to a web based forum
and get answers from foks into fish keeping than folks into usenet
trolling and wars. Try koiphen.com or koishack.com for the best and
most trustworthy answers. .......Do not trust CArol aka Zebulon's
answers ass she has been known to give erroneouos info that has cost
folks their fishes life before.....She only does none thing right and
that is lie.

On 14 Jan 2007 06:31:46 -0800, "jess" wrote:

I am new to fishkeeping and am not sure what to do for the best. I
noticed this morning that my less than a year old comet, Dale, is
swollen mainly on the left side above the pelvic fin but perhaps a bit
on the right side also though not as much. He is sitting at the bottom
of the tank but will come up and swim around if I lift the lid then
when he realises nothing much is going to happen he goes back down
again. He is still eating and the water quality is within ok limits.
I have only had him and his tank mate, another comet, for 11 days so
cannot believe something has gone wrong already! Dale has always been
the slightly smaller of the two and the quieter and doesn't eat as much
but seemed perfectly healthy until this morning. I don't see any
raised scales or gasping or areas of soreness so what do you think it
could be and if it is possibly the start of a bacterial infection
should I start treatment straight away just in case. If so what to do
and should I isolate him or leave in tank to treat.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!