Water Change Fish Loss?

I`m really bummed.

I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my tank
during a water change, is this possible?

The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?

I havent seen a body yet............

"StringerBell" wrote in message news
I`m really bummed.

I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my tank
during a water change, is this possible?

The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?

I havent seen a body yet............

How do you do your water change?
Where do you collect the dirty water?
I collect dirty water to a Instant Ocean salt bucket
and always inspect the water to put back to the tank
some snails or micro-hermit crabs back to the tank...

How long is the fish unseen? Maybe just hidding somewhere?

"Pszemol" wrote in message
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"StringerBell" wrote in message
news
I`m really bummed.

I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my tank
during a water change, is this possible?

The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?

I havent seen a body yet............

How do you do your water change?
Where do you collect the dirty water?
I collect dirty water to a Instant Ocean salt bucket
and always inspect the water to put back to the tank
some snails or micro-hermit crabs back to the tank...


Interesting. I use a pump with a cover over the intake to change water. I
guess that keeps me ftrom sucking up my pets too. But it doesn't help when I
vacuum.

Anyone else do this?
--
Jim

What was the best thing before sliced bread?

jthread wrote:

Anyone else do this?

I have a python and syphon the water out into a sink downstairs. I use a sock
over the python to keep my critters out of the intake.

George Patterson
Worry doesn't improve the future; it just ruins the present.

Don't vacume your substrate.

Wayne Sallee



jthread wrote on 11/18/2007 6:56 PM:
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"StringerBell" wrote in message
news
I`m really bummed.

I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my tank
during a water change, is this possible?

The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?

I havent seen a body yet............
How do you do your water change?
Where do you collect the dirty water?
I collect dirty water to a Instant Ocean salt bucket
and always inspect the water to put back to the tank
some snails or micro-hermit crabs back to the tank...


Interesting. I use a pump with a cover over the intake to change water. I
guess that keeps me ftrom sucking up my pets too. But it doesn't help when I
vacuum.

Anyone else do this?

Yeah---

I think it`s gone. I havent seen it for 48 hours. I didnt vacuum the sand, I
pulled a few "Stalks" of Macro out of the tank. They had attached themselves
to rubble, or just packed the substrate more with their roots. So I probably
disrupted things a bit when taking them out.

It just wasnt in my paradigm of expectations that a fish could get siphoned
out.I will screen the tube in the future. I still dont think that was the
cause.


"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Don't vacume your substrate.

Wayne Sallee



jthread wrote on 11/18/2007 6:56 PM:
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"StringerBell" wrote in message
news I`m really bummed.

I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my
tank during a water change, is this possible?

The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?

I havent seen a body yet............
How do you do your water change?
Where do you collect the dirty water?
I collect dirty water to a Instant Ocean salt bucket
and always inspect the water to put back to the tank
some snails or micro-hermit crabs back to the tank...


Interesting. I use a pump with a cover over the intake to change water. I
guess that keeps me ftrom sucking up my pets too. But it doesn't help
when I vacuum.

Anyone else do this?

Also the prefilter for a mag 5 pump works very well
in the siphon tube.

Wayne Sallee



StringerBell wrote on 11/19/2007 7:28 AM:
Yeah---

I think it`s gone. I havent seen it for 48 hours. I didnt vacuum the sand, I
pulled a few "Stalks" of Macro out of the tank. They had attached themselves
to rubble, or just packed the substrate more with their roots. So I probably
disrupted things a bit when taking them out.

It just wasnt in my paradigm of expectations that a fish could get siphoned
out.I will screen the tube in the future. I still dont think that was the
cause.


"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Don't vacume your substrate.

Wayne Sallee



jthread wrote on 11/18/2007 6:56 PM:
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"StringerBell" wrote in message
news I`m really bummed.

I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my
tank during a water change, is this possible?

The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?

I havent seen a body yet............
How do you do your water change?
Where do you collect the dirty water?
I collect dirty water to a Instant Ocean salt bucket
and always inspect the water to put back to the tank
some snails or micro-hermit crabs back to the tank...

Interesting. I use a pump with a cover over the intake to change water. I
guess that keeps me ftrom sucking up my pets too. But it doesn't help
when I vacuum.

Anyone else do this?

On Nov 19, 6:00 am, Wayne Sallee wrote:
Also the prefilter for a mag 5 pump works very well
in the siphon tube.

Wayne Sallee


StringerBell wrote on 11/19/2007 7:28 AM:

Yeah---

I think it`s gone. I havent seen it for 48 hours. I didnt vacuum the sand, I
pulled a few "Stalks" of Macro out of the tank. They had attached themselves
to rubble, or just packed the substrate more with their roots. So I probably
disrupted things a bit when taking them out.

It just wasnt in my paradigm of expectations that a fish could get siphoned
out.I will screen the tube in the future. I still dont think that was the
cause.

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Don't vacume your substrate.

Wayne Sallee


jthread wrote on 11/18/2007 6:56 PM:
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"StringerBell" wrote in message
news I`m really bummed.

I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my
tank during a water change, is this possible?

The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?

I havent seen a body yet............
How do you do your water change?
Where do you collect the dirty water?
I collect dirty water to a Instant Ocean salt bucket
and always inspect the water to put back to the tank
some snails or micro-hermit crabs back to the tank...

Interesting. I use a pump with a cover over the intake to change water. I
guess that keeps me ftrom sucking up my pets too. But it doesn't help
when I vacuum.

Anyone else do this?

i dont think i have ever siphoned a fish out, i currently use a 1 inch
tube, but its a bit big, i like 5/8th's inch tubes, and siphon into a
5 gal salt bucket as well.
a good way to change is place a bucket halfway between your tank and
sump,and run one siphon into the bucket, and another siphon into the
sump, that gives an easy change that doesnt interrupt any water flow
of tank level. it allows for easy acclimation but takes a bit more
salt since 5 gallons changed this way only gets apprx 4.75 gallons of
fresh sal****er in the tank, the other apprx .25(estimation, and
depends on your tank size) gal ends up back in the bucket. i usually
let this flow for 15-20 mins or once the salinity and temp is equaled
in both the tank and bucket ensuring its mixed. Consequentially you
will see your fish in the bucket happily swimming around in good water
if you happened to sucked it up. no tube screen needed when using this
method. this may be kind of far fetched but screens kill fish too if
the flow is fast enough to suck them into it.

Hello Stringerbell,

Sadly, the probability is that the fish died, and that if you have
hermitcrabs or other inverts. they would have eaten it within hours.

Regards, Fisshnut.

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:24:36 -0600, "Pszemol"
wrote:

"StringerBell" wrote in message news
I`m really bummed.

I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my tank
during a water change, is this possible?

The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?

I havent seen a body yet............

How do you do your water change?
Where do you collect the dirty water?
I collect dirty water to a Instant Ocean salt bucket
and always inspect the water to put back to the tank
some snails or micro-hermit crabs back to the tank...

How long is the fish unseen? Maybe just hidding somewhere?

What ?????

Wayne Sallee



wolfdogg wrote on 11/19/2007 1:01 PM:
On Nov 19, 6:00 am, Wayne Sallee wrote:
Also the prefilter for a mag 5 pump works very well
in the siphon tube.

Wayne Sallee


StringerBell wrote on 11/19/2007 7:28 AM:

Yeah---
I think it`s gone. I havent seen it for 48 hours. I didnt vacuum the sand, I
pulled a few "Stalks" of Macro out of the tank. They had attached themselves
to rubble, or just packed the substrate more with their roots. So I probably
disrupted things a bit when taking them out.
It just wasnt in my paradigm of expectations that a fish could get siphoned
out.I will screen the tube in the future. I still dont think that was the
cause.
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
Don't vacume your substrate.
Wayne Sallee

jthread wrote on 11/18/2007 6:56 PM:
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"StringerBell" wrote in message
news I`m really bummed.
I think I might have unknowingly siphoned a Scooter Blenny out of my
tank during a water change, is this possible?
The other possibility is that I might have disrupted the DSB a bit when
cleaning out some Macro Algae. Could this release ammonia into the tank
bottom where the Blenny inhabits?
I havent seen a body yet............
How do you do your water change?
Where do you collect the dirty water?
I collect dirty water to a Instant Ocean salt bucket
and always inspect the water to put back to the tank
some snails or micro-hermit crabs back to the tank...
Interesting. I use a pump with a cover over the intake to change water. I
guess that keeps me ftrom sucking up my pets too. But it doesn't help
when I vacuum.
Anyone else do this?

i dont think i have ever siphoned a fish out, i currently use a 1 inch
tube, but its a bit big, i like 5/8th's inch tubes, and siphon into a
5 gal salt bucket as well.
a good way to change is place a bucket halfway between your tank and
sump,and run one siphon into the bucket, and another siphon into the
sump, that gives an easy change that doesnt interrupt any water flow
of tank level. it allows for easy acclimation but takes a bit more
salt since 5 gallons changed this way only gets apprx 4.75 gallons of
fresh sal****er in the tank, the other apprx .25(estimation, and
depends on your tank size) gal ends up back in the bucket. i usually
let this flow for 15-20 mins or once the salinity and temp is equaled
in both the tank and bucket ensuring its mixed. Consequentially you
will see your fish in the bucket happily swimming around in good water
if you happened to sucked it up. no tube screen needed when using this
method. this may be kind of far fetched but screens kill fish too if
the flow is fast enough to suck them into it.