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Old April 21st 04, 09:57 PM
MartinBee
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Can anyone advise on the following please

I have a goldfish, around 6-7 years old, 4.5 - 5 inches long on his own in
a 10 gallon tank with a fluval internal cartridge filter.

He (I'm assuming he's male) has recently developed what I would call
cataracts e.g. a milky white film over his eyes. I put this down to old age
but one eye now has blood streaked through the membrane which looks a bit
alarming and sore.

Ammonia and Nitrite levels are zero and he appears ok otherwise, feeding ok
and passing waste ok

Could this be some sort of infection which can be treated?

Any advise would be appreciated.


Thanks in anticipation

Martin


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Old April 22nd 04, 10:31 AM
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MartinBee wrote:

Can anyone advise on the following please

I have a goldfish, around 6-7 years old, 4.5 - 5 inches long on his own in
a 10 gallon tank with a fluval internal cartridge filter.

He (I'm assuming he's male) has recently developed what I would call
cataracts e.g. a milky white film over his eyes. I put this down to old age
but one eye now has blood streaked through the membrane which looks a bit
alarming and sore.

Ammonia and Nitrite levels are zero and he appears ok otherwise, feeding ok
and passing waste ok


Martin,

What are the Nitrate and PH levels?
How often and how much water do you change?
Is there any sharp objects in the tank?
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Old April 22nd 04, 03:04 PM
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the slime coat is thickening. there is something toxic in the water.
move the fish to a tub of fresh water with 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, and an
airstone.
clean the tank out and move the fish back. if you got gravel, that is probably teh
source of the toxins.
for the fish, you can do a 30 second salt dip to get the slime coat off.
http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disease/disease.htm


"MartinBee" wrote:

Can anyone advise on the following please

I have a goldfish, around 6-7 years old, 4.5 - 5 inches long on his own in
a 10 gallon tank with a fluval internal cartridge filter.

He (I'm assuming he's male) has recently developed what I would call
cataracts e.g. a milky white film over his eyes. I put this down to old age
but one eye now has blood streaked through the membrane which looks a bit
alarming and sore.

Ammonia and Nitrite levels are zero and he appears ok otherwise, feeding ok
and passing waste ok

Could this be some sort of infection which can be treated?

Any advise would be appreciated.


Thanks in anticipation

Martin




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Old April 22nd 04, 10:33 PM
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What are the Nitrate and PH levels?


PH = 6.5, Nitrite = 0 ppm, Ammonia = 0 ppm I haven't got a Nitrate test
kit, do I need one?

How often and how much water do you change?

20% ever three / four weeks

Is there any sharp objects in the tank?


Nope, just him and some plastic plants

Martin


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Old April 23rd 04, 01:28 AM
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right, you got gravel and probably your nitrates are sky high.
start changing 50% of the water every day for 5 days.
get teh nitrate test and keep nitrates 20ppm or less.
Ingrid

"MartinBee" wrote:



What are the Nitrate and PH levels?


PH = 6.5, Nitrite = 0 ppm, Ammonia = 0 ppm I haven't got a Nitrate test
kit, do I need one?

How often and how much water do you change?

20% ever three / four weeks

Is there any sharp objects in the tank?


Nope, just him and some plastic plants

Martin




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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
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compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
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Old April 23rd 04, 02:11 PM
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MartinBee wrote:



What are the Nitrate and PH levels?


PH = 6.5, Nitrite = 0 ppm, Ammonia = 0 ppm I haven't got a Nitrate test
kit, do I need one?



Yes you need one. Nitrate can kill if the fish is exposed to high levels for
a long period of time. Also your PH is a bit low should be around 7-7.5. 6.5
isn't
too bad, but I'd want to be getting it a bit more alkaline.

How often do you do water changes?
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Old April 23rd 04, 09:08 PM
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wrote in message
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the slime coat is thickening. there is something toxic in the water.
move the fish to a tub of fresh water with 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons,

and an
airstone.
clean the tank out and move the fish back. if you got gravel, that is

probably teh
source of the toxins.
for the fish, you can do a 30 second salt dip to get the slime coat off.
http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disease/disease.htm


Ok, I've done a 100% water change and washed the tanks and filter out. The
fish was in a 0.1% salt solution for 1/2 hour while I was doing this.
Before putting him back he had 3 mins in a 0.9% salt solution dip.

There doesn't seem to be much difference to his eyes, will it take time? how
often should I repeat the salt bath routine?

Cheers
Martin

PS, there isn't any gravel substrate in the tank.


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Old April 24th 04, 03:55 AM
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do a 30 second salt dip with 3% salt and gently use your hands to help strip the
slime coat off. then put the fish back into fresh water with 0.1% salt in the water.
with water changes everything should clear up in about 48 hours. Ingrid

"MartinBee" wrote:
Ok, I've done a 100% water change and washed the tanks and filter out. The
fish was in a 0.1% salt solution for 1/2 hour while I was doing this.
Before putting him back he had 3 mins in a 0.9% salt solution dip.

There doesn't seem to be much difference to his eyes, will it take time? how
often should I repeat the salt bath routine?

Cheers
Martin

PS, there isn't any gravel substrate in the tank.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.
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Old April 26th 04, 10:40 PM
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Default Bloody membrane over eye - Help

To close this out, the GF is responding well to the treatment and his eyes
are clearing up nicely.
Thanks for the advice, do you know anything about the stock market?

Martin

wrote in message
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do a 30 second salt dip with 3% salt and gently use your hands to help

strip the
slime coat off. then put the fish back into fresh water with 0.1% salt in

the water.
with water changes everything should clear up in about 48 hours. Ingrid

"MartinBee" wrote:
Ok, I've done a 100% water change and washed the tanks and filter out.

The
fish was in a 0.1% salt solution for 1/2 hour while I was doing this.
Before putting him back he had 3 mins in a 0.9% salt solution dip.

There doesn't seem to be much difference to his eyes, will it take time?

how
often should I repeat the salt bath routine?

Cheers
Martin

PS, there isn't any gravel substrate in the tank.




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List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.



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Old April 27th 04, 12:39 AM
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yeah ... stay out of it. Put money into land. Ingrid

"MartinBee" wrote:
To close this out, the GF is responding well to the treatment and his eyes
are clearing up nicely.
Thanks for the advice, do you know anything about the stock market?

Martin



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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.
 




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