Pasta ...

PASTE, Theo, PASTE! Pasta is what you put sauce on, that the Italians are
so famous for GBG!

When I mix mine up, I measure out about 1/3 cup of the dry stuff into a
bowl. Then you add "almost" that much of liquid, mix it up into a stiff
little ball, knead it well (like bread dough - or, like pasta dough if
you've ever made that from scratch!), then tear off little pieces and toss
it at the fish. That's the basic version . . .

However! To the dry stuff, I usually add about 1/2 tsp of koi clay (good for
their digestion, cleans out the innards, good for the white!), about 4-5
drops of liquid baby vitamins, about 1 or 2 tsp. of garlic powder, and
instead of water, I use orange juice for the taste and extra vitamin C. Here
in the States, I can get fresh orange juice with Calcium and Vitamin D
added - and I use that. You can toss some shrimp or other fish in a food
processor, grind it up and add that; you can chop up fresh spinach leaves or
Romaine lettuce (the kind you use for Cesar Salad - much better than some
lettuces). They like honey, you can add a tiny bit of that, too. Add
whatever you want!

I only make enough for one feeding (that's why I said 1/3 cup). I may be a
bad mommy, but they only get that once a day; the rest of the time, they'll
just have to make do with their pellets. You can add just about anything to
it, and adjust the liquid content to keep it at a dough stage. Don't make it
too soft and sticky, because it will be hard for you to tear off. It's
supposed to be stiff. This is the "quick and clean" method. Try it and see
how they like it. I can give you the "dirty" method if you want, but it
means making jello for your fish . . . G

Lee



"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...
OK, so I've read about Koi pasta several times, and just bought 4 kg of
pasta powder.

Fine, but apart from letting the fish sniff it with a straw, how do you
actually turn it into something useful ? How much do I use, and how much
water do I add ?

And what would be your (well, your fish) favorite recipies ? Add shrimps
?
Honey ? Propolis ? Orange juice ? All at the same time ?

Thanks for any pointers,

Theo

Paste Pasta, one of our club members uses a pasta machine and dries the
sticks just like pasta. What a concept! ;o) ~ jan

On 8 Aug 2003 12:36:10 -0500, "Lee Brouillet" wrote:

PASTE, Theo, PASTE! Pasta is what you put sauce on, that the Italians are
so famous for GBG!

When I mix mine up, I measure out about 1/3 cup of the dry stuff into a
bowl. Then you add "almost" that much of liquid, mix it up into a stiff
little ball, knead it well (like bread dough - or, like pasta dough if
you've ever made that from scratch!), then tear off little pieces and toss
it at the fish. That's the basic version . . .

However! To the dry stuff, I usually add about 1/2 tsp of koi clay (good for
their digestion, cleans out the innards, good for the white!), about 4-5
drops of liquid baby vitamins, about 1 or 2 tsp. of garlic powder, and
instead of water, I use orange juice for the taste and extra vitamin C. Here
in the States, I can get fresh orange juice with Calcium and Vitamin D
added - and I use that. You can toss some shrimp or other fish in a food
processor, grind it up and add that; you can chop up fresh spinach leaves or
Romaine lettuce (the kind you use for Cesar Salad - much better than some
lettuces). They like honey, you can add a tiny bit of that, too. Add
whatever you want!

I only make enough for one feeding (that's why I said 1/3 cup). I may be a
bad mommy, but they only get that once a day; the rest of the time, they'll
just have to make do with their pellets. You can add just about anything to
it, and adjust the liquid content to keep it at a dough stage. Don't make it
too soft and sticky, because it will be hard for you to tear off. It's
supposed to be stiff. This is the "quick and clean" method. Try it and see
how they like it. I can give you the "dirty" method if you want, but it
means making jello for your fish . . . G

Lee



"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
...
OK, so I've read about Koi pasta several times, and just bought 4 kg of
pasta powder.

Fine, but apart from letting the fish sniff it with a straw, how do you
actually turn it into something useful ? How much do I use, and how much
water do I add ?

And what would be your (well, your fish) favorite recipies ? Add shrimps
?
Honey ? Propolis ? Orange juice ? All at the same time ?

Thanks for any pointers,

Theo





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~ jan JJsPond.us writes:

Paste Pasta, one of our club members uses a pasta machine and dries the
sticks just like pasta. What a concept! ;o) ~ jan

Plus you get that nice fishy flavor next time you make real pasta :-^

Theo,

Just to let you know -- I, for one, would never ridicule anyone who:

Makes orange juice, from scratch, to feed fish
Uses "Catweasel" as a pet name (fish or otherwise)
Looks for said pet for 3 hours, while
Reverse-engineering your deck
Uses the most excellent term "right frenzy"

Nope, no ridicule from me!

And, wow, dude, you have a sturgeon! (I can recall seeing a fishing show
years ago, when 2 or 3 guys waded into the river to "land" and 8-foot
sturgeon, which was promptly released; however, I think it must have been
another type of sturgeon, as these fish were in rivers in the US.)

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
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Yes, wrap it tightly and you can keep it in the refrigerator.

That's what I did, ta.

I have ONE that refuses it. Couldn't be less interested. He waits
for the floating stuff he's used to, thank you very much. Or it may be
the
competition: I toss in a piece of the food and everyone rushes in for
it.
Maybe this one feels too dignified to "fight" for his food?

Being one that is always interested in "individual" behaviour, I can
relate.
Fish, cats, dogs, they all have their personal traits. It's in fact the
beauty of looking at these critters to see how much they all differ.
"Fish"
eh... nope, they all have their personal "life".

Sorry about Catweasel: are you sure he isn't just hiding?

At the risk of forever being ridiculed... guess who just turned up tonight
:blush:

Yup, Catweasel.

Don't ask me where he/she was hiding, and DON'T think I didn't look (I
reverse engineered part of the deck to see if I could find him somewhere,
perhaps stuck etc...) I looked for 3 hours, gave my cats a 1st degree,
ruffled plants (maybe he jumped etc) and after 4 feeds with him missing, I
mailed my wife: "he's gone".

Tonight at 23:00 PM he turned up again

I am now thinking that 24°C may be just too much for him. A spray bar &
trickle tower (and airstones) should put in enough oxygen (they are quite
critical when it comes to O2), but I know they don't like "hot" water.
The
water has gone up 1°C this week (which is not much, given the continuous
heat of 35°C plus), but maybe it's enough to make him think "OK, me hide"
(well, he's Russian LOL).

I was very glad to see him again.

Theo

Theo,

Look at http://www.koizyme.com/tipsandhints.html for some additional info on
the use of the oils in the paste food.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Theo van Daele" wrote in message
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OK, PASTE duh :-) (But in Dutch paste is ... pasta... Dum tie dum ;-)

Thanks much Lee, printed for reference, gonna try to make a wonder brew
today.

1/3rd cup... wow, so this bag should last me ages Good, as it was
the most expensive food item I ever bought for the fish ($ 70 ...)

Fresh orange juice sounds good.

Baby vitamins... need to get that. Wonder what they'll make of a 6'7"
weirdo sniffing around in baby shops mumbling "but it's for my fish" :-)

I *think* the koi clay is already mixed with the paste (it has got a
beige/brown color, I'll take a picture and let BV decide if it's clay or
not
:-p ) and it was advertised as being easy to digest.

Shrimps at the ready.

Someone on another forum also mentioned adding a bit of vegetable oil,
which
would make it less sticky. Any comments ?

I'll see how I get on with the clean version for now but may come back to
you for the dirty jello version :-)

Thanks again,

Theo

"Lee Brouillet" schreef in bericht
...
PASTE, Theo, PASTE! Pasta is what you put sauce on, that the Italians
are
so famous for GBG!