HELP How serious is it? Filter advice needed.

Hi All:

DH went home last night to a split filter pouring water everywhere.
(Rubbermaid garbage can - pretty thin) Not fully understanding things like
veggie filters he did his best to rectify the situation.

First he turned off the pump - very good.

Next - bacause the water level was down a six or eight inches he plopped the
garden hose (no chlorine - well water) into the veggie filter that he just
thought was a little pond, and turned on the hose full.

I now have no filtration and a whole lot of goop from the WH roots in the
pond.

So how serious is all this goop in the pond with no filtration? If I make
the Skippy filter that will take a day or two and I don't know if I have
that much time. I did put a 500gph pump on a shelf with a hose out of the
water to add aeration.

Should I continue with making a new filter or rush to the nearest pond store
and buy a filter?

Pond is 1800 gal.
6' rise to filter, gravity to veggie filter, down stream to pond.
Pump is Laguna 7000 with estimated 1500 gph at 6' rise.

Looking at Cyprio 2000 Bioforce filter - pump size 1450 or the OASE Biotec
5 - pump size 1450. I'm a little concerned that my pump may push the water
thru' just a little fast for either of these filters.

Comments please!

Heather
SW Ontario

I have the bioforce 2000w/uv w/a 1500gph submersible giant pump I does fine.
The bioforce is pretty easy to clean. It would work better if there was a
settle tank before the filter. The pads in the filter grab alot og gunk.
"Heather" wrote in message
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Hi All:

DH went home last night to a split filter pouring water everywhere.
(Rubbermaid garbage can - pretty thin) Not fully understanding things
like
veggie filters he did his best to rectify the situation.

First he turned off the pump - very good.

Next - bacause the water level was down a six or eight inches he plopped
the
garden hose (no chlorine - well water) into the veggie filter that he just
thought was a little pond, and turned on the hose full.

I now have no filtration and a whole lot of goop from the WH roots in the
pond.

So how serious is all this goop in the pond with no filtration? If I make
the Skippy filter that will take a day or two and I don't know if I have
that much time. I did put a 500gph pump on a shelf with a hose out of the
water to add aeration.

Should I continue with making a new filter or rush to the nearest pond
store
and buy a filter?

Pond is 1800 gal.
6' rise to filter, gravity to veggie filter, down stream to pond.
Pump is Laguna 7000 with estimated 1500 gph at 6' rise.

Looking at Cyprio 2000 Bioforce filter - pump size 1450 or the OASE
Biotec
5 - pump size 1450. I'm a little concerned that my pump may push the
water
thru' just a little fast for either of these filters.

Comments please!

Heather
SW Ontario

The debris that got dislodged and sent to the pond is not harmful for the
pond. It looks bad, but won't hurt anything. I doubt that the filter
bacteria in the veggie filter were disturbed. After the new filter is
installed, much of the debris will be sent to the filter and removed, but
some will probably settle to the bottom and need to be vacuumed to get rid
of it.

I don't know how much of your filtration was in the filter and how much was
in the roots of the veggie filter, but you might reduce feeding until the
new filter is installed and cycled. Just keep an eye on the ammonia and
nitrites during the cycle.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"Heather" wrote in message
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Hi All:

DH went home last night to a split filter pouring water everywhere.
(Rubbermaid garbage can - pretty thin) Not fully understanding things
like
veggie filters he did his best to rectify the situation.

First he turned off the pump - very good.

Next - bacause the water level was down a six or eight inches he plopped
the
garden hose (no chlorine - well water) into the veggie filter that he just
thought was a little pond, and turned on the hose full.

I now have no filtration and a whole lot of goop from the WH roots in the
pond.

So how serious is all this goop in the pond with no filtration? If I make
the Skippy filter that will take a day or two and I don't know if I have
that much time. I did put a 500gph pump on a shelf with a hose out of the
water to add aeration.

Should I continue with making a new filter or rush to the nearest pond
store
and buy a filter?

Pond is 1800 gal.
6' rise to filter, gravity to veggie filter, down stream to pond.
Pump is Laguna 7000 with estimated 1500 gph at 6' rise.

Looking at Cyprio 2000 Bioforce filter - pump size 1450 or the OASE
Biotec
5 - pump size 1450. I'm a little concerned that my pump may push the
water
thru' just a little fast for either of these filters.

Comments please!

Heather
SW Ontario

ugly but harmless to the fish. dont feed the fish until you get a new filter up and
running. get some real aeration in there. they can do without the filter but not
the aeration. and if you got a UV, turn that off the algae will suck up nutrients.
if water is warmer than 75 or so that is going to create oxygen debt, so need that
aeration. Ingrid

"Heather" wrote:
So how serious is all this goop in the pond with no filtration? If I make
the Skippy filter that will take a day or two and I don't know if I have
that much time. I did put a 500gph pump on a shelf with a hose out of the
water to add aeration.


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Thanks everyone! New filter now up and ...... well the water is passing
thru' Take a few weeks before we can say it's running I guess. I fed the
fish sparingly for the three days. Put in a 600 gph pump to just shoot the
water up a foot or so which seemed to handle the aeration issue.

Tested the water last night -
pH 8.0
Amonia none
Nitrite/Nitrate .1 5
Gh/Kh 140/100

The only change was the hardness measurements had increased from the last
test I did.

The new filter is my version of the Skippy filter. We used a 100 gal
stocktank. Size will do a 3,000 pond. Ours is 1,800 to 2,000. Since I
don't have ready access to the filter media they use we put plastic
strapping from boxes in laundry bags as the first layer after the grating,
then a layer of furnace filter - a hard blue mesh stuff 1" thick, then on
top a softer furnace filter, like a felt - 1/4" thick and finer textured.
On the very top - all the water hyacinths that would fit. Time will tell
how well this works.

While we have a huge supply of lava rock, when we pulled apart the old
filter we could see how gummed up it was with mud trapped in all the lava.
Maybe I didn't rinse it often enough. For this reason we have not used it
this time. I may be inclined to add another grate at the top with a very
thin layer of lava rock as all the stuff in there now keeps floating up. A
2" layer should hose thru easier.

Thanks again,
Heather
SW Ontario