Pond pictures and update

Dont know if some of you may remember me posting. I was one of the ones
that had dirt in my water. Well we had to drain it out, got out all the
rocks in the pond and set it back up again. In the meantime we transferred
our Comets over to a holding tank and lost 3 of them due to the excessive
heat in the house while getting the pond back in shape to put them into
again. We had 11, lost one due to a fallen rock into the pond, and lost 3
more in the tank. We now have 7 left and they are growing so big. We will
be getting a few more Comets soon once the water clears up a bit, I'm
crossing fingers here.

Out of all the plants that we had in there from those small baskets you can
get at some pet stores, only the Hardy Lilies have grown. We have about 8
or so lily pads, and our first blossom appeared today, of all days. Its
murky here in Massachusetts today and stormy. It brightened up my day
though, as I was awaiting it to bloom :0)

After draining the pond by using the pump and a long hose attached to it we
set it back up after washing down the liner. Of course it poured almost the
whole week after we set it up again and more mud got in there before we
could fully finish putting the rock border around the edges to keep the
liner in place. We now have murky but its also looking pea soup green as
well, which it was never doing before. So I'm happy even with the Algae
bloom in the water, so I know at least its getting sunlight so to speak. I
have tried using the Python that I have for our tanks in the house but its
not picking up the dirt, so I may have to get a wet/dry vac or something. I
was thinking about adding some of those marbles for aquariums to put in the
lower ends of the pond so if I need to get in there I dont slip on the
liner.

Anyways, I have added some pictures of it up on our website if any of you
would like to take a look and let me know any ideas on what to put up around
the taller sides of the pond along the top shelf for plants or whatever.

Chrissy
http://www.thejoyals.net/pond.html

Chrissy, Hi from Phoenix AZ. Looks like you have been a real busy couple.
The pond looks real nice. They are allot of trouble at times but as a new
pond person myself I can tell you that you will have allot of fun with the
projects. I had the pea soup pond for a couple of weeks I was told to keep
the filter good and clean and it soon clears up. As long as the water test
good for the fish your ok. My pond cleared up then the nitrite level was
high still working on that but it is slowly getting better. My problem was
that I purchased to many fish not knowing the limit for my pond. The fish
are doing great and look healthy so as long as the water keeps getting
better were ok here. I wish you could send us some of your rain, I'd be
happy to send some sun. Last week we had a low of 107 and a high of 118.
Just a hint that someone told me not to put gravel or small rocks in the
pond they are hard to clean and the waste from the fish gets between them
and that causes you future problems. Remember I'm new at this could be wrong
but maybe a more expert pond owner will tell you more technical information
on that. Good Luck Kc
"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:WddTa.118652$Ph3.15170@sccrnsc04...

Dont know if some of you may remember me posting. I was one of the ones
that had dirt in my water. Well we had to drain it out, got out all the
rocks in the pond and set it back up again. In the meantime we
transferred
our Comets over to a holding tank and lost 3 of them due to the excessive
heat in the house while getting the pond back in shape to put them
into
again. We had 11, lost one due to a fallen rock into the pond, and lost 3
more in the tank. We now have 7 left and they are growing so big. We
will
be getting a few more Comets soon once the water clears up a bit, I'm
crossing fingers here.

Out of all the plants that we had in there from those small baskets you
can
get at some pet stores, only the Hardy Lilies have grown. We have about 8
or so lily pads, and our first blossom appeared today, of all days. Its
murky here in Massachusetts today and stormy. It brightened up my day
though, as I was awaiting it to bloom :0)

After draining the pond by using the pump and a long hose attached to it
we
set it back up after washing down the liner. Of course it poured almost
the
whole week after we set it up again and more mud got in there before we
could fully finish putting the rock border around the edges to keep the
liner in place. We now have murky but its also looking pea soup green as
well, which it was never doing before. So I'm happy even with the Algae
bloom in the water, so I know at least its getting sunlight so to speak.
I
have tried using the Python that I have for our tanks in the house but its
not picking up the dirt, so I may have to get a wet/dry vac or something.
I
was thinking about adding some of those marbles for aquariums to put in
the
lower ends of the pond so if I need to get in there I dont slip on the
liner.

Anyways, I have added some pictures of it up on our website if any of you
would like to take a look and let me know any ideas on what to put up
around
the taller sides of the pond along the top shelf for plants or whatever.

Chrissy
http://www.thejoyals.net/pond.html

"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:WddTa.118652$Ph3.15170@sccrnsc04...

Dont know if some of you may remember me posting. I was one of the ones
that had dirt in my water. Well we had to drain it out, got out all the
rocks in the pond and set it back up again. In the meantime we
transferred
our Comets over to a holding tank and lost 3 of them due to the excessive
heat in the house while getting the pond back in shape to put them
into
again. We had 11, lost one due to a fallen rock into the pond, and lost 3
more in the tank. We now have 7 left and they are growing so big. We
will
be getting a few more Comets soon once the water clears up a bit, I'm
crossing fingers here.

Out of all the plants that we had in there from those small baskets you
can
get at some pet stores, only the Hardy Lilies have grown. We have about 8
or so lily pads, and our first blossom appeared today, of all days. Its
murky here in Massachusetts today and stormy. It brightened up my day
though, as I was awaiting it to bloom :0)

After draining the pond by using the pump and a long hose attached to it
we
set it back up after washing down the liner. Of course it poured almost
the
whole week after we set it up again and more mud got in there before we
could fully finish putting the rock border around the edges to keep the
liner in place. We now have murky but its also looking pea soup green as
well, which it was never doing before. So I'm happy even with the Algae
bloom in the water, so I know at least its getting sunlight so to speak.
I
have tried using the Python that I have for our tanks in the house but its
not picking up the dirt, so I may have to get a wet/dry vac or something.
I
was thinking about adding some of those marbles for aquariums to put in
the
lower ends of the pond so if I need to get in there I dont slip on the
liner.

Anyways, I have added some pictures of it up on our website if any of you
would like to take a look and let me know any ideas on what to put up
around
the taller sides of the pond along the top shelf for plants or whatever.

Chrissy
http://www.thejoyals.net/pond.html


Hi Chrissy........

Your pond is a similar size and shape to mine
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/steve.thomas4/MyPond.html

Just a suggestion but what about nipping off adjacent corners and filling
with rocks (see my page) and planting up.

In April I cleaned out the bottom of my pond (100% water change).........
that's the first time I have done that in nearly 20 years and to be quite
honest I don't know why I bothered as there wasn't much muck down there. It
was a quick affair. Filled the bath ( that was the fish home for an hour or
so )and 30 gal water butt and a few odd containers with the pond water.

The water has gone through the green spell......... now crystal clear. I
haven't bothered with the uv this year. I'm surprised it's so clear
considering it has been hot and sunny for a couple of months in the UK.

Steve


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"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:WddTa.118652$Ph3.15170@sccrnsc04...

Dont know if some of you may remember me posting. I was one of the ones
that had dirt in my water.
snip
After draining the pond by using the pump and a long hose attached to it
we
set it back up after washing down the liner. Of course it poured almost
the
whole week after we set it up again and more mud got in there before we
could fully finish putting the rock border around the edges to keep the
liner in place. We now have murky but its also looking pea soup green as
well, which it was never doing before.
snip

Often, you (the royal you, not chrissy) read advice here and ignore it
because there is something about knowing/doing yourself. I know this from my
mud problem. My water was opaque orange for months. I tried everything,
draining, particle filtering, calcite, etc.

The true solution...tons of plants...and tons of STOP MESSING WITH THE DAMN
POND!!!! Chrissy I promise you, and everyone here will tell you I know what
I am talking about. Get your rocks up, so you have no more run off. Toss
your plants in, and STOP MESSING WITH THE DAMN POND!!! If I would have just
listened when everyone told me to stop run off and STOP MESSING WITH THE
DAMN POND!!!, my clay problems would have been over weeks ago.

I now have gin clear water, because I stopped run-off, tossed in a lot of
plants, and (say it with me now) STOPPED MESSING WITH THE DAMN POND.

In short, stop run off, lots of plants, STOP MESSING WITH THE DAMN POND!!!

BV.

I agree with you totally.. I have a 55 gallon fish tank started with a 10
and then moved on now onto a pond outside. Can never have too many I think
lol. Anyway, I had always cleaned it routinely, sometimes I think I did
more to it then it needed. Then pea soup water came and hit out of the blue
and nothing i did to try to fix it worked. Unfortunately there was
something wrong with the water supply in our Town and many people were
getting the green water. I had found this out after I transferred
everything over from my 55 to a 10 and lost about 8 fish overnight I
then set the tank back up again and put the surviving fish in the next day
and within a week or two again it started getting cloudy from the bacterial
bloom and then pea soup green again. I added some algae fix, and it cleared
up within 2 hours. I then planted the tank and it has been on and off with
some blooms but nothing compared to what is was. I do water changes when
needed when the chemicals get too high, but nothing like I used to do with
putting in chemicals to clear the tank, I just let nature takes it course
and everything works out in the end. Now I have a crystal clear tank and
dont do much with it.

I'm just hoping that the pond will work itself out. I need to plant some
plants around the shelving to cover up some of the liner that shows around
the edges and also help with the beauty of the pond. We are awaiting the
grass to grow in the dirt areas outside the pond so that we can put in a
bench there to sit and enjoy it now.

Chrissy


"BenignVanilla" wrote in message
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"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:WddTa.118652$Ph3.15170@sccrnsc04...

Dont know if some of you may remember me posting. I was one of the ones
that had dirt in my water.
snip
After draining the pond by using the pump and a long hose attached to it
we
set it back up after washing down the liner. Of course it poured almost
the
whole week after we set it up again and more mud got in there before we
could fully finish putting the rock border around the edges to keep the
liner in place. We now have murky but its also looking pea soup green
as
well, which it was never doing before.
snip

Often, you (the royal you, not chrissy) read advice here and ignore it
because there is something about knowing/doing yourself. I know this from
my
mud problem. My water was opaque orange for months. I tried everything,
draining, particle filtering, calcite, etc.

The true solution...tons of plants...and tons of STOP MESSING WITH THE
DAMN
POND!!!! Chrissy I promise you, and everyone here will tell you I know
what
I am talking about. Get your rocks up, so you have no more run off. Toss
your plants in, and STOP MESSING WITH THE DAMN POND!!! If I would have
just
listened when everyone told me to stop run off and STOP MESSING WITH THE
DAMN POND!!!, my clay problems would have been over weeks ago.

I now have gin clear water, because I stopped run-off, tossed in a lot of
plants, and (say it with me now) STOPPED MESSING WITH THE DAMN POND.

In short, stop run off, lots of plants, STOP MESSING WITH THE DAMN POND!!!

BV.

Thanks so much!

I have added in some poly/cotton batting into the filter to help pick up
some of the dirt, but most of it has settled now and is reflecting off from
the water. The pond levels for PH, Nitrite, Nitrate, etc. are looking good.

I can't imagine having 107 to 118 temps here. It has been humid except for
the past two weekends, it was actually and finally nice to work and finish
up most of the pond.

I read that on the boards about the gravel and it trapping dirt and fish
waste so that was another reason I wanted to get rid of it besides the fact
that it brought so much dirt in with it, so I was thinking the marbles, but
it may be a bad idea too huh? But I'm not sure what to put the plants in
when I add some more in, for dirt, or soil or whatever. Any ideas on what I
could do for something not to slip on. I'm a klutz lol.

Chrissy


"DonKcR" wrote in message
news:JVdTa.8203$ff.985@fed1read01...
Chrissy, Hi from Phoenix AZ. Looks like you have been a real busy couple.
The pond looks real nice. They are allot of trouble at times but as a new
pond person myself I can tell you that you will have allot of fun with the
projects. I had the pea soup pond for a couple of weeks I was told to keep
the filter good and clean and it soon clears up. As long as the water test
good for the fish your ok. My pond cleared up then the nitrite level was
high still working on that but it is slowly getting better. My problem was
that I purchased to many fish not knowing the limit for my pond. The fish
are doing great and look healthy so as long as the water keeps getting
better were ok here. I wish you could send us some of your rain, I'd be
happy to send some sun. Last week we had a low of 107 and a high of 118.
Just a hint that someone told me not to put gravel or small rocks in the
pond they are hard to clean and the waste from the fish gets between them
and that causes you future problems. Remember I'm new at this could be
wrong
but maybe a more expert pond owner will tell you more technical
information
on that. Good Luck Kc
"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:WddTa.118652$Ph3.15170@sccrnsc04...

Dont know if some of you may remember me posting. I was one of the ones
that had dirt in my water. Well we had to drain it out, got out all the
rocks in the pond and set it back up again. In the meantime we
transferred
our Comets over to a holding tank and lost 3 of them due to the
excessive
heat in the house while getting the pond back in shape to put them
into
again. We had 11, lost one due to a fallen rock into the pond, and lost
3
more in the tank. We now have 7 left and they are growing so big. We
will
be getting a few more Comets soon once the water clears up a bit, I'm
crossing fingers here.

Out of all the plants that we had in there from those small baskets you
can
get at some pet stores, only the Hardy Lilies have grown. We have about
8
or so lily pads, and our first blossom appeared today, of all days. Its
murky here in Massachusetts today and stormy. It brightened up my day
though, as I was awaiting it to bloom :0)

After draining the pond by using the pump and a long hose attached to it
we
set it back up after washing down the liner. Of course it poured almost
the
whole week after we set it up again and more mud got in there before we
could fully finish putting the rock border around the edges to keep the
liner in place. We now have murky but its also looking pea soup green
as
well, which it was never doing before. So I'm happy even with the Algae
bloom in the water, so I know at least its getting sunlight so to speak.
I
have tried using the Python that I have for our tanks in the house but
its
not picking up the dirt, so I may have to get a wet/dry vac or
something.
I
was thinking about adding some of those marbles for aquariums to put in
the
lower ends of the pond so if I need to get in there I dont slip on the
liner.

Anyways, I have added some pictures of it up on our website if any of
you
would like to take a look and let me know any ideas on what to put up
around
the taller sides of the pond along the top shelf for plants or whatever.

Chrissy
http://www.thejoyals.net/pond.html

Chrissy,

I use pond shoes that I get at wallyworld. They are great at reducing the
slipperiness of the bottom when I am in working. Doc Johnson said that what
he tells people when he does house calls and they are in the pond slipping
and sliding trying to catch the fish for him to look at, is take athletic
socks and turn them inside out. I haven't tried that one, yet. The deeper
the pond, the more buoyant you become, making less weight against the liner,
and the slicker it becomes. My small pond is about 2 feet deep and it is a
breeze to walk in. The big pond is about 3.5 feet deep, and only through
luck have I not gone under. Of course if it was 7 feet deep, I wouldn't
slip at all.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:LSkTa.120080$ye4.87229@sccrnsc01...
Thanks so much!

I have added in some poly/cotton batting into the filter to help pick up
some of the dirt, but most of it has settled now and is reflecting off
from
the water. The pond levels for PH, Nitrite, Nitrate, etc. are looking
good.

I can't imagine having 107 to 118 temps here. It has been humid except
for
the past two weekends, it was actually and finally nice to work and finish
up most of the pond.

I read that on the boards about the gravel and it trapping dirt and fish
waste so that was another reason I wanted to get rid of it besides the
fact
that it brought so much dirt in with it, so I was thinking the marbles,
but
it may be a bad idea too huh? But I'm not sure what to put the plants in
when I add some more in, for dirt, or soil or whatever. Any ideas on what
I
could do for something not to slip on. I'm a klutz lol.

Chrissy


"DonKcR" wrote in message
news:JVdTa.8203$ff.985@fed1read01...
Chrissy, Hi from Phoenix AZ. Looks like you have been a real busy
couple.
The pond looks real nice. They are allot of trouble at times but as a
new
pond person myself I can tell you that you will have allot of fun with
the
projects. I had the pea soup pond for a couple of weeks I was told to
keep
the filter good and clean and it soon clears up. As long as the water
test
good for the fish your ok. My pond cleared up then the nitrite level was
high still working on that but it is slowly getting better. My problem
was
that I purchased to many fish not knowing the limit for my pond. The
fish
are doing great and look healthy so as long as the water keeps getting
better were ok here. I wish you could send us some of your rain, I'd be
happy to send some sun. Last week we had a low of 107 and a high of 118.
Just a hint that someone told me not to put gravel or small rocks in the
pond they are hard to clean and the waste from the fish gets between
them
and that causes you future problems. Remember I'm new at this could be
wrong
but maybe a more expert pond owner will tell you more technical
information
on that. Good Luck Kc
"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:WddTa.118652$Ph3.15170@sccrnsc04...

Dont know if some of you may remember me posting. I was one of the
ones
that had dirt in my water. Well we had to drain it out, got out all
the
rocks in the pond and set it back up again. In the meantime we
transferred
our Comets over to a holding tank and lost 3 of them due to the
excessive
heat in the house while getting the pond back in shape to put them
into
again. We had 11, lost one due to a fallen rock into the pond, and
lost
3
more in the tank. We now have 7 left and they are growing so big. We
will
be getting a few more Comets soon once the water clears up a bit, I'm
crossing fingers here.

Out of all the plants that we had in there from those small baskets
you
can
get at some pet stores, only the Hardy Lilies have grown. We have
about
8
or so lily pads, and our first blossom appeared today, of all days.
Its
murky here in Massachusetts today and stormy. It brightened up my day
though, as I was awaiting it to bloom :0)

After draining the pond by using the pump and a long hose attached to
it
we
set it back up after washing down the liner. Of course it poured
almost
the
whole week after we set it up again and more mud got in there before
we
could fully finish putting the rock border around the edges to keep
the
liner in place. We now have murky but its also looking pea soup green
as
well, which it was never doing before. So I'm happy even with the
Algae
bloom in the water, so I know at least its getting sunlight so to
speak.
I
have tried using the Python that I have for our tanks in the house but
its
not picking up the dirt, so I may have to get a wet/dry vac or
something.
I
was thinking about adding some of those marbles for aquariums to put
in
the
lower ends of the pond so if I need to get in there I dont slip on the
liner.

Anyways, I have added some pictures of it up on our website if any of
you
would like to take a look and let me know any ideas on what to put up
around
the taller sides of the pond along the top shelf for plants or
whatever.

Chrissy
http://www.thejoyals.net/pond.html

"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:PGkTa.120076$N7.16318@sccrnsc03...
I agree with you totally.. I have a 55 gallon fish tank started with a 10
and then moved on now onto a pond outside. Can never have too many I
think
lol. Anyway, I had always cleaned it routinely, sometimes I think I did
more to it then it needed. Then pea soup water came and hit out of the
blue
and nothing i did to try to fix it worked. Unfortunately there was
something wrong with the water supply in our Town and many people were
getting the green water. I had found this out after I transferred
everything over from my 55 to a 10 and lost about 8 fish overnight I
then set the tank back up again and put the surviving fish in the next day
and within a week or two again it started getting cloudy from the
bacterial
bloom and then pea soup green again. I added some algae fix, and it
cleared
up within 2 hours. I then planted the tank and it has been on and off
with
some blooms but nothing compared to what is was. I do water changes when
needed when the chemicals get too high, but nothing like I used to do with
putting in chemicals to clear the tank, I just let nature takes it course
and everything works out in the end. Now I have a crystal clear tank and
dont do much with it.

I'll take green tank water, if I could just get the algae off the glass.

I'm just hoping that the pond will work itself out. I need to plant some
plants around the shelving to cover up some of the liner that shows around
the edges and also help with the beauty of the pond. We are awaiting the
grass to grow in the dirt areas outside the pond so that we can put in a
bench there to sit and enjoy it now.
snip

I tried seed around my pond and kept losing it. Birds I guess. Go spend a
few extra bucks (Just a few) and through a few pieces of sod down. It will
help with the run off, and take root very quickly.

BV.

"RichToyBox" wrote in message
. net...
Chrissy,

I use pond shoes that I get at wallyworld. They are great at reducing the
slipperiness of the bottom when I am in working. Doc Johnson said that
what
he tells people when he does house calls and they are in the pond slipping
and sliding trying to catch the fish for him to look at, is take athletic
socks and turn them inside out. I haven't tried that one, yet. The
deeper
the pond, the more buoyant you become, making less weight against the
liner,
and the slicker it becomes. My small pond is about 2 feet deep and it is
a
breeze to walk in. The big pond is about 3.5 feet deep, and only through
luck have I not gone under. Of course if it was 7 feet deep, I wouldn't
slip at all.
snip

My pond is slick, and I have no horizontal shelves. I mistakenly put an
angle on everything to help guide goo to my bottom drain. I have found that
if you slide your feet, and remove some of the slime as you go, you can get
better footing. Don't walk, shuffle.

BV.

Chrissy, I'm in your boat so new that I do things by trial and error. But
there are alot of helpful people here and this site, so I'm sure you can get
lots of help. I haven't got any of your rain yet! Good Luck from Phoenix Kc
"Chrissy" wrote in message
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Thanks so much!

I have added in some poly/cotton batting into the filter to help pick up
some of the dirt, but most of it has settled now and is reflecting off
from
the water. The pond levels for PH, Nitrite, Nitrate, etc. are looking
good.

I can't imagine having 107 to 118 temps here. It has been humid except
for
the past two weekends, it was actually and finally nice to work and finish
up most of the pond.

I read that on the boards about the gravel and it trapping dirt and fish
waste so that was another reason I wanted to get rid of it besides the
fact
that it brought so much dirt in with it, so I was thinking the marbles,
but
it may be a bad idea too huh? But I'm not sure what to put the plants in
when I add some more in, for dirt, or soil or whatever. Any ideas on what
I
could do for something not to slip on. I'm a klutz lol.

Chrissy


"DonKcR" wrote in message
news:JVdTa.8203$ff.985@fed1read01...
Chrissy, Hi from Phoenix AZ. Looks like you have been a real busy
couple.
The pond looks real nice. They are allot of trouble at times but as a
new
pond person myself I can tell you that you will have allot of fun with
the
projects. I had the pea soup pond for a couple of weeks I was told to
keep
the filter good and clean and it soon clears up. As long as the water
test
good for the fish your ok. My pond cleared up then the nitrite level was
high still working on that but it is slowly getting better. My problem
was
that I purchased to many fish not knowing the limit for my pond. The
fish
are doing great and look healthy so as long as the water keeps getting
better were ok here. I wish you could send us some of your rain, I'd be
happy to send some sun. Last week we had a low of 107 and a high of 118.
Just a hint that someone told me not to put gravel or small rocks in the
pond they are hard to clean and the waste from the fish gets between
them
and that causes you future problems. Remember I'm new at this could be
wrong
but maybe a more expert pond owner will tell you more technical
information
on that. Good Luck Kc
"Chrissy" wrote in message
news:WddTa.118652$Ph3.15170@sccrnsc04...

Dont know if some of you may remember me posting. I was one of the
ones
that had dirt in my water. Well we had to drain it out, got out all
the
rocks in the pond and set it back up again. In the meantime we
transferred
our Comets over to a holding tank and lost 3 of them due to the
excessive
heat in the house while getting the pond back in shape to put them
into
again. We had 11, lost one due to a fallen rock into the pond, and
lost
3
more in the tank. We now have 7 left and they are growing so big. We
will
be getting a few more Comets soon once the water clears up a bit, I'm
crossing fingers here.

Out of all the plants that we had in there from those small baskets
you
can
get at some pet stores, only the Hardy Lilies have grown. We have
about
8
or so lily pads, and our first blossom appeared today, of all days.
Its
murky here in Massachusetts today and stormy. It brightened up my day
though, as I was awaiting it to bloom :0)

After draining the pond by using the pump and a long hose attached to
it
we
set it back up after washing down the liner. Of course it poured
almost
the
whole week after we set it up again and more mud got in there before
we
could fully finish putting the rock border around the edges to keep
the
liner in place. We now have murky but its also looking pea soup green
as
well, which it was never doing before. So I'm happy even with the
Algae
bloom in the water, so I know at least its getting sunlight so to
speak.
I
have tried using the Python that I have for our tanks in the house but
its
not picking up the dirt, so I may have to get a wet/dry vac or
something.
I
was thinking about adding some of those marbles for aquariums to put
in
the
lower ends of the pond so if I need to get in there I dont slip on the
liner.

Anyways, I have added some pictures of it up on our website if any of
you
would like to take a look and let me know any ideas on what to put up
around
the taller sides of the pond along the top shelf for plants or
whatever.

Chrissy
http://www.thejoyals.net/pond.html