HELP! FISH EMERGENCY!

Ok Guys and Gals,
here's what happened.. .my lionfish ate a damsel last night that was too
big for him. Now he cannot regurgitate it or finish digesting it and he
is choking to death. What can I do for him? Please.. i'll try
anything. I've already tried to pull the fish out and it doesn't work.
The lionfish is small at about 2" long.

Thanks

Nevermind....
he died.

For those of you that were willing to help...
Thanks


matt653212 wrote:

Ok Guys and Gals,
here's what happened.. .my lionfish ate a damsel last night that was
too big for him. Now he cannot regurgitate it or finish digesting it
and he is choking to death. What can I do for him? Please.. i'll try
anything. I've already tried to pull the fish out and it doesn't
work. The lionfish is small at about 2" long.

Thanks

I wish I was up at 1:40am to read this post, it's a hard thing to do with a
poisnous fish, but if it's chocking, you sometimes have to be rough and use
tweezers to remove it. A friend of mine saved his Clown from chocking on a
peice of squid that fell into the tank, it was ment for the shrimp.

I just bought a small Lion Fish 2 weeks ago, and it already went through a
similar ordeal, mine ate a chromey, but I didn't see this happen, in the
morning the Lion Fish was alive, but not swimming and the gut was bigger
then the fish.

Nevermind....
he died.

No good mate. Sorry to hear.

For those of you that were willing to help...
Thanks

Man, I like my betta and everything but this just solidifies the fact that
fish are so dumb.

Headline: "Human eats fish too big to swallow: chokes and dies"

Unreal.

K.
"skozzy" wrote in message
u...
I wish I was up at 1:40am to read this post, it's a hard thing to do with
a
poisnous fish, but if it's chocking, you sometimes have to be rough and
use
tweezers to remove it. A friend of mine saved his Clown from chocking on a
peice of squid that fell into the tank, it was ment for the shrimp.

I just bought a small Lion Fish 2 weeks ago, and it already went through a
similar ordeal, mine ate a chromey, but I didn't see this happen, in the
morning the Lion Fish was alive, but not swimming and the gut was bigger
then the fish.

Nevermind....
he died.

No good mate. Sorry to hear.

For those of you that were willing to help...
Thanks

Sorry to hear friend.
Yes as my friend says in another reply to this post, My large Clown Fish had
eyes bigger than his stomach and swollowed a piece of Squid that was way to
big for her to digest.
It got stuck in her throat and by the time i saw what had happend, she was
doing cartwheels all over the tanks and breathing rapidly.
By the time I found some tweezers (2 minutes), she was laying on her side
and not moving, and breathing only once about every 4 seconds.
I took her from the tank and held her in a soft cloth in my hand, she made
no attempts to move.
I tried to get some tweezers in her mouth but the Squid piece was too firm
to grip, so a raced around and found a needle.
I managed to prick the needle into the Squid piece and plucked it out of her
mouth.
I then spent the next 15 minutes pushing her around the tank with a stick,
gradually she started to breathe again and started doing cartwheels.
The fish was unable to balance for what seemed like ages but in about an
hour it was back to it's favourite spot in the tank, and is now 100% back to
full health.
It seems to be none the wiser for what it went through, before the incident
it would feed from my hand, but since it seems to be even less timid of my
hand in the tank.
It now will often rest on my hand or swim through and around my hand if it
is in the water.


Being the type of fish yours was, does make it hard to do a similar thing as
i had to, But I am sure there would have to be a way.
Maybe some gloves in the future so you can hold the fish??
Once again, I am sorry to hear of your loss..... I know I was very stressed
at the sight of the choking fish of mine.
I still dont believe that my fish survived its ordeal, and I was amazed that
what i did worked.....

Cheers
Microbot


"matt653212" wrote in message
s.com...
Nevermind....
he died.

For those of you that were willing to help...
Thanks


matt653212 wrote:

Ok Guys and Gals,
here's what happened.. .my lionfish ate a damsel last night that was
too big for him. Now he cannot regurgitate it or finish digesting it
and he is choking to death. What can I do for him? Please.. i'll try
anything. I've already tried to pull the fish out and it doesn't
work. The lionfish is small at about 2" long.

Thanks

Notwithstanding poisons or being impaled by barbs, I don't see how a fish
can easily choke on food. The throat does not lead to lungs, only their
stomach. Oscars can take a few days to work a meal down, so they swim
around with part of a fish hanging out of their mouth. Even if the meal
obstructs 100% of the mouth's opening, they can still move their gill
plates and push water in and out the back. This would reduce their
gill's efficiency, so the fish would slow it's activity level down, but
that would be expected (find a nice quiet spot to process their meal).
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"Kelly" wrote in message
news
Man, I like my betta and everything but this just solidifies the fact
that
fish are so dumb.

Headline: "Human eats fish too big to swallow: chokes and dies"

Unreal.

K.
"skozzy" wrote in message
u...
I wish I was up at 1:40am to read this post, it's a hard thing to do
with
a
poisnous fish, but if it's chocking, you sometimes have to be rough
and
use
tweezers to remove it. A friend of mine saved his Clown from chocking
on a
peice of squid that fell into the tank, it was ment for the shrimp.

I just bought a small Lion Fish 2 weeks ago, and it already went
through a
similar ordeal, mine ate a chromey, but I didn't see this happen, in
the
morning the Lion Fish was alive, but not swimming and the gut was
bigger
then the fish.

Nevermind....
he died.

No good mate. Sorry to hear.

For those of you that were willing to help...
Thanks

I'm amazed myself. That is a heck of a story. A whopper even!

Marc


Microbot wrote:
Sorry to hear friend.
Yes as my friend says in another reply to this post, My large Clown Fish had
eyes bigger than his stomach and swollowed a piece of Squid that was way to
big for her to digest.
It got stuck in her throat and by the time i saw what had happend, she was
doing cartwheels all over the tanks and breathing rapidly.
By the time I found some tweezers (2 minutes), she was laying on her side
and not moving, and breathing only once about every 4 seconds.
I took her from the tank and held her in a soft cloth in my hand, she made
no attempts to move.
I tried to get some tweezers in her mouth but the Squid piece was too firm
to grip, so a raced around and found a needle.
I managed to prick the needle into the Squid piece and plucked it out of her
mouth.
I then spent the next 15 minutes pushing her around the tank with a stick,
gradually she started to breathe again and started doing cartwheels.
The fish was unable to balance for what seemed like ages but in about an
hour it was back to it's favourite spot in the tank, and is now 100% back to
full health.
It seems to be none the wiser for what it went through, before the incident
it would feed from my hand, but since it seems to be even less timid of my
hand in the tank.
It now will often rest on my hand or swim through and around my hand if it
is in the water.


Being the type of fish yours was, does make it hard to do a similar thing as
i had to, But I am sure there would have to be a way.
Maybe some gloves in the future so you can hold the fish??
Once again, I am sorry to hear of your loss..... I know I was very stressed
at the sight of the choking fish of mine.
I still dont believe that my fish survived its ordeal, and I was amazed that
what i did worked.....

Cheers
Microbot


"matt653212" wrote in message
s.com...

Nevermind....
he died.

For those of you that were willing to help...
Thanks


matt653212 wrote:


Ok Guys and Gals,
here's what happened.. .my lionfish ate a damsel last night that was
too big for him. Now he cannot regurgitate it or finish digesting it
and he is choking to death. What can I do for him? Please.. i'll try
anything. I've already tried to pull the fish out and it doesn't
work. The lionfish is small at about 2" long.

Thanks






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"matt653212" wrote in message
s.com...
Ok Guys and Gals,
here's what happened.. .my lionfish ate a damsel last night that was too
big for him. Now he cannot regurgitate it or finish digesting it and he
is choking to death. What can I do for him? Please.. i'll try
anything. I've already tried to pull the fish out and it doesn't work.
The lionfish is small at about 2" long.

Thanks

Yeah i know...... i thought it was dead for sure,
The problem was the piece of Squid was blocking it's whole mouth, It was a
tight fit inside and no water could flow through and past its gills...
I would have video taped the event if I had of thought or known the
Clownfish was going to survive.
But then again... you dont get time to think of things like capturing the
moment on film when your fish is flipping around the tank and obviously
suffering...
All i could think of was ... OH NO NOT AGAIN.. It was my 3rd Clownfish in 6
months, the 1st one was spooked once night and jumped out o f the tank
(dead)...
The 2nd didn't survive an outbreak of Ich (dead) and this is the 3rd....I
didn't want to have to get a 4th.. lol

Cheers
Microbot

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message
om...
I'm amazed myself. That is a heck of a story. A whopper even!

Marc


Microbot wrote:
Sorry to hear friend.
Yes as my friend says in another reply to this post, My large Clown Fish
had
eyes bigger than his stomach and swollowed a piece of Squid that was way
to
big for her to digest.
It got stuck in her throat and by the time i saw what had happend, she
was
doing cartwheels all over the tanks and breathing rapidly.
By the time I found some tweezers (2 minutes), she was laying on her
side
and not moving, and breathing only once about every 4 seconds.
I took her from the tank and held her in a soft cloth in my hand, she
made
no attempts to move.
I tried to get some tweezers in her mouth but the Squid piece was too
firm
to grip, so a raced around and found a needle.
I managed to prick the needle into the Squid piece and plucked it out of
her
mouth.
I then spent the next 15 minutes pushing her around the tank with a
stick,
gradually she started to breathe again and started doing cartwheels.
The fish was unable to balance for what seemed like ages but in about an
hour it was back to it's favourite spot in the tank, and is now 100%
back to
full health.
It seems to be none the wiser for what it went through, before the
incident
it would feed from my hand, but since it seems to be even less timid of
my
hand in the tank.
It now will often rest on my hand or swim through and around my hand if
it
is in the water.


Being the type of fish yours was, does make it hard to do a similar
thing as
i had to, But I am sure there would have to be a way.
Maybe some gloves in the future so you can hold the fish??
Once again, I am sorry to hear of your loss..... I know I was very
stressed
at the sight of the choking fish of mine.
I still dont believe that my fish survived its ordeal, and I was amazed
that
what i did worked.....

Cheers
Microbot


"matt653212" wrote in message
s.com...

Nevermind....
he died.

For those of you that were willing to help...
Thanks


matt653212 wrote:


Ok Guys and Gals,
here's what happened.. .my lionfish ate a damsel last night that was
too big for him. Now he cannot regurgitate it or finish digesting it
and he is choking to death. What can I do for him? Please.. i'll try
anything. I've already tried to pull the fish out and it doesn't
work. The lionfish is small at about 2" long.

Thanks






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I dont know if pushing it around the tank helped, but it seemed like a good
idea at the time... and the fish it alive today so it didn't hurt..

Cheers
Microbot



"Microbot" wrote in message
u...
Yeah i know...... i thought it was dead for sure,
The problem was the piece of Squid was blocking it's whole mouth, It was a
tight fit inside and no water could flow through and past its gills...
I would have video taped the event if I had of thought or known the
Clownfish was going to survive.
But then again... you dont get time to think of things like capturing the
moment on film when your fish is flipping around the tank and obviously
suffering...
All i could think of was ... OH NO NOT AGAIN.. It was my 3rd Clownfish in
6
months, the 1st one was spooked once night and jumped out o f the tank
(dead)...
The 2nd didn't survive an outbreak of Ich (dead) and this is the 3rd....I
didn't want to have to get a 4th.. lol

Cheers
Microbot

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message
om...
I'm amazed myself. That is a heck of a story. A whopper even!

Marc


Microbot wrote:
Sorry to hear friend.
Yes as my friend says in another reply to this post, My large Clown
Fish
had
eyes bigger than his stomach and swollowed a piece of Squid that was
way
to
big for her to digest.
It got stuck in her throat and by the time i saw what had happend, she
was
doing cartwheels all over the tanks and breathing rapidly.
By the time I found some tweezers (2 minutes), she was laying on her
side
and not moving, and breathing only once about every 4 seconds.
I took her from the tank and held her in a soft cloth in my hand, she
made
no attempts to move.
I tried to get some tweezers in her mouth but the Squid piece was too
firm
to grip, so a raced around and found a needle.
I managed to prick the needle into the Squid piece and plucked it out
of
her
mouth.
I then spent the next 15 minutes pushing her around the tank with a
stick,
gradually she started to breathe again and started doing cartwheels.
The fish was unable to balance for what seemed like ages but in about
an
hour it was back to it's favourite spot in the tank, and is now 100%
back to
full health.
It seems to be none the wiser for what it went through, before the
incident
it would feed from my hand, but since it seems to be even less timid
of
my
hand in the tank.
It now will often rest on my hand or swim through and around my hand
if
it
is in the water.


Being the type of fish yours was, does make it hard to do a similar
thing as
i had to, But I am sure there would have to be a way.
Maybe some gloves in the future so you can hold the fish??
Once again, I am sorry to hear of your loss..... I know I was very
stressed
at the sight of the choking fish of mine.
I still dont believe that my fish survived its ordeal, and I was
amazed
that
what i did worked.....

Cheers
Microbot


"matt653212" wrote in message
s.com...

Nevermind....
he died.

For those of you that were willing to help...
Thanks


matt653212 wrote:


Ok Guys and Gals,
here's what happened.. .my lionfish ate a damsel last night that was
too big for him. Now he cannot regurgitate it or finish digesting it
and he is choking to death. What can I do for him? Please.. i'll
try
anything. I've already tried to pull the fish out and it doesn't
work. The lionfish is small at about 2" long.

Thanks






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