Hole in the head

(Frankrkay) wrote in message ...
"blove" wrote;

what do the red earthworms do?

Hole-in-the-head (pin sized holes near nostrils, gill plates, and eyes, that
gradually increse in size untill large portions of the cranial is destroyed) is
most likely due to Hexamita - symptoms include thin white threads trailing from
pin sized holes and depigmention along lateral line. Both are due to a vitamin
"D", and/or mineral deficiency. Red earth worms = vitamin "D".

would it help an oscar with hole in the head
also?

Sure - and easyer to feed to an Oscar - you won't have to cut it up!

what is your opinion about the medication from Jungle for Hole In The
Head disease? i believe its called Hole In The Head Guard

First thing needed is better nutrition - I have never used Jungle's medication
to treat this disease. However, I have used Tetra's food called Metronidazol
along with Tetra's Medicated Food for Parasites, for treatment, which *will*
cure the disease if treated early.(an antibiotic food should be feed for at
least 10 days) ......... Frank

Hi Frank -- I'm wondering if you have documentation for your
statements regarding Vitamin D and Hexamita? I've never heard Vitamin
D mentioned as a cause of HITH, and generally aquarists have moved
away from the Hexamita protozoan as a cause. Most believe it invades
the lesions after the onset of the disease. Looking forward to your
reply --

--Mark

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Mark Stone tractorlegs at msn dot kom
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The ".Edu" meens i are smart

There is medication for "Hole in the head", PetsMart sells it. One of my
tetra head this nasty illness, by the time it was cured , lower mouth and
some of the upper, including one of it's eye was gone. Surprisingly after,
still lived to a long time, was able to eat floating food.
Some times I made sure he gets the food.

Julius

"Mark Stone" wrote in message
om...
(Frankrkay) wrote in message
...
"blove" wrote;

what do the red earthworms do?

Hole-in-the-head (pin sized holes near nostrils, gill plates, and eyes,
that
gradually increse in size untill large portions of the cranial is
destroyed) is
most likely due to Hexamita - symptoms include thin white threads
trailing from
pin sized holes and depigmention along lateral line. Both are due to a
vitamin
"D", and/or mineral deficiency. Red earth worms = vitamin "D".

would it help an oscar with hole in the head
also?

Sure - and easyer to feed to an Oscar - you won't have to cut it up!

what is your opinion about the medication from Jungle for Hole In The
Head disease? i believe its called Hole In The Head Guard

First thing needed is better nutrition - I have never used Jungle's
medication
to treat this disease. However, I have used Tetra's food called
Metronidazol
along with Tetra's Medicated Food for Parasites, for treatment, which
*will*
cure the disease if treated early.(an antibiotic food should be feed for
at
least 10 days) ......... Frank

Hi Frank -- I'm wondering if you have documentation for your
statements regarding Vitamin D and Hexamita? I've never heard Vitamin
D mentioned as a cause of HITH, and generally aquarists have moved
away from the Hexamita protozoan as a cause. Most believe it invades
the lesions after the onset of the disease. Looking forward to your
reply --

--Mark

Crossposted to RAFC, Oscar keepers may be interested in this
conversation - - -


Mark Stone tractorlegs at msn dot kom
OSCAR Lovers! http://www.geocities.com/cichlidiot_2000/oscar.html
The ".Edu" meens i are smart

"Mark Stone" wrote in message
om...
(Frankrkay) wrote in message
...
"blove" wrote;

what do the red earthworms do?

Hole-in-the-head (pin sized holes near nostrils, gill plates, and eyes,
that
gradually increse in size untill large portions of the cranial is
destroyed) is
most likely due to Hexamita - symptoms include thin white threads
trailing from
pin sized holes and depigmention along lateral line. Both are due to a
vitamin
"D", and/or mineral deficiency. Red earth worms = vitamin "D".

would it help an oscar with hole in the head
also?

Sure - and easyer to feed to an Oscar - you won't have to cut it up!

what is your opinion about the medication from Jungle for Hole In The
Head disease? i believe its called Hole In The Head Guard

First thing needed is better nutrition - I have never used Jungle's
medication
to treat this disease. However, I have used Tetra's food called
Metronidazol
along with Tetra's Medicated Food for Parasites, for treatment, which
*will*
cure the disease if treated early.(an antibiotic food should be feed for
at
least 10 days) ......... Frank

Hi Frank -- I'm wondering if you have documentation for your
statements regarding Vitamin D and Hexamita? I've never heard Vitamin
D mentioned as a cause of HITH, and generally aquarists have moved
away from the Hexamita protozoan as a cause. Most believe it invades
the lesions after the onset of the disease. Looking forward to your
reply --

--Mark

Crossposted to RAFC, Oscar keepers may be interested in this
conversation - - -


Mark Stone tractorlegs at msn dot kom
OSCAR Lovers! http://www.geocities.com/cichlidiot_2000/oscar.html
The ".Edu" meens i are smart

i got home last night and went to feed my cichlids, when i noticed that the
pleco wasn't moving. i put the spirulina flakes in the tank and the rest of
the fish went nuts, but he was just hiding his head in some rocks. on closer
inspection i saw that one of his eyes was missing. figuring he'd been
attacked, i tried to get him out, but he swam away. from the new angle i
could see that both eyes were missing. this happened either yesterday or the
day before. does it sound like it could be aggression or hole-in-the-head.
he does have a spot on his side that looks like one of the cichlids rammed
him. do i need to worry they'll be next, if it is HITH?

Paul

PS.
is there anything i can/need to do for the pleco?