Someone threw out a 50 gallon plastic container today,.......

I really don't have that kind of floor space,... In fact, I don't have a
whole lot of any kind of space,...My place has been, over the nine and a
half years, decorated in what you could call, "early American
cast-offs",...added to enough stuff to fill a one bedroom apartment,
which is what I used to have, now all wedged into a 'studio'
apartment.~Dean.

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I really don't have that kind of floor space,... In fact, I don't have a
whole lot of any kind of space,...My place has been, over the nine and a
half years, decorated in what you could call, "early American
cast-offs",...added to enough stuff to fill a one bedroom apartment,
which is what I used to have, now all wedged into a 'studio'
apartment.~Dean.
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It's time to look for an old "handy man" special house....... ;-)
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Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
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http://faq.thekrib.com/
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"Papa Red" wrote in message
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I really don't have that kind of floor space,... In fact, I don't have a
whole lot of any kind of space,...My place has been, over the nine and a
half years, decorated in what you could call, "early American
cast-offs",...added to enough stuff to fill a one bedroom apartment,
which is what I used to have, now all wedged into a 'studio'
apartment.~Dean.
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It's time to look for an old "handy man" special house....... ;-)
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Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
Aquarium FAQ are at:
http://faq.thekrib.com/
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Florida is so expensive any more,
we lived in a place were we paid different amounts season/off season either
one was expensive....
Nik

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It's time to look for an old "handy man" special house....... ;-)
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Florida is so expensive any more,
we lived in a place were we paid different amounts season/off season
either one was expensive....
Nik
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Yes, I have heard this from a friend near Tampa. He can't afford to buy
even a small house there in any section around the city. He now regrets not
buying a home when he first move there 25 years ago. Sometimes Mobile Homes
can be found in excellent condition and for a fraction of what a house
costs. I would rather live in a MH than rent an apartment as rent is GONE
and you have nothing - but the MH can always be sold. You also have a lot
more room and can do as you please with it, inside and out. You can stay in
a trailer-court (not all are dumps full of trashy people) or put it on a
piece of land which will grow in value as time passes. That's what my old
friend is looking into now.
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Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
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"Nikki" wrote in message
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"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
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It's time to look for an old "handy man" special house....... ;-)
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Florida is so expensive any more,
we lived in a place were we paid different amounts season/off season
either one was expensive....
Nik
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Yes, I have heard this from a friend near Tampa. He can't afford to buy
even a small house there in any section around the city. He now regrets
not buying a home when he first move there 25 years ago. Sometimes Mobile
Homes can be found in excellent condition and for a fraction of what a
house costs. I would rather live in a MH than rent an apartment as rent
is GONE and you have nothing - but the MH can always be sold. You also
have a lot more room and can do as you please with it, inside and out.
You can stay in a trailer-court (not all are dumps full of trashy people)
or put it on a piece of land which will grow in value as time passes.
That's what my old friend is looking into now.
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Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995...
Aquariums since 1952
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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We (husband, me and the boys, mom & step-dad, if we can get them to come)
will be moving back down in a few years, we thought about the double wide MH
but we lived through a few big hurricanes (Andrew being one) so my husband
said no way, however Naples don't get hit quite as often for some reason, my
husband grew up in Iowa/Colorado but moved toFl, Keys young so he had his
share of them. My gram lives about 5 min from the beach in Naples and has
only got hit four (big) times in the last 10-15 years. Me i like NC we go
there often
Nik

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"Koi-Lo" wrote in message
You can stay in a trailer-court (not all are dumps full of trashy
people) or put it on a piece of land which will grow in value as
time passes. That's what my old friend is looking into now.
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We (husband, me and the boys, mom & step-dad, if we can get them to
come) will be moving back down in a few years, we thought about the
double wide MH but we lived through a few big hurricanes (Andrew
being one) so my husband said no way, however Naples don't get hit
quite as often for some reason,

Living in Fla poses the threat of hurricanes, so I would suggest either
central or the west side of Fla. I know an elderly woman in Fla and she
said they, on the gulf side, don't get the severe storms the east side of
Fla gets. But now she's in her late 80s so.....

my husband grew up in Iowa/Colorado
but moved toFl, Keys young so he had his share of them. My gram lives
about 5 min from the beach in Naples and has only got hit four (big)
times in the last 10-15 years. Me i like NC we go there often

I heard it's a beautiful state and has a nice climate. I've never been
there.


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Aquariums since 1952
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Naples is below ft myers, and yes its not as bad there, i miss it so much,
these winters in pittsburgh are hard, My youngest son Luke has asthma, along
with some other problems, he does good in summer and bad in winter, he had
got sick as a baby and now a cold will lead into us being at the hospital,
but in the summer he does great, which is one of the reasons we are thinking
about moving back, to make it better for him.
Nik
I tell my husband all the time me and luke want a pond, but the more i
think about it, it would be so much eaiser living down there, up here i
could only have it in the summer, my neighbor has one with about six
goldfish, she leaves them out all winter, my son tells me all the time mom
brake the ice and steel the fish, he feels bad for them, but i guess they
are fine they always are swimming come summer.
You know those big square containers you can get at walmart for 20$ they
hold about 40 gl maybe more if you get the bigger ones, could you use that
as an outdoor pond in the summer, what kind of filter would you need to use?
Nikki

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Naples is below ft myers, and yes its not as bad there, i miss it so
much, these winters in pittsburgh are hard, My youngest son Luke has
asthma, along with some other problems, he does good in summer and
bad in winter, he had got sick as a baby and now a cold will lead
into us being at the hospital, but in the summer he does great, which
is one of the reasons we are thinking about moving back, to make it
better for him.

That's a good reason to move then. Health is so important. I lost a good
friend here as she had to move to AZ because of health issues. The humidity
here about killed her every summer. "If you don't have health, you don't
have anything," my mother used to say (we got no junkfood and nothing fried.
We were not allowed to wallow in front of a TV for hours at a time.).

Nik
I tell my husband all the time me and luke want a pond, but the more i
think about it, it would be so much eaiser living down there, up here
i could only have it in the summer, my neighbor has one with about six
goldfish, she leaves them out all winter, my son tells me all the
time mom brake the ice and steel the fish, he feels bad for them, but
i guess they are fine they always are swimming come summer.

GF are amazingly cold tolerant when healthy. I feed them extra in the fall
to fatten them up for the winter. They sail right through. Tell Luke not
to worry about them. :-) I have a cousin who lived near Hershey Pa and
they hated the long cold Pa winters. They now live down in GA and love it.

You know those big square containers you can get at walmart for 20$
they hold about 40 gl maybe more if you get the bigger ones, could
you use that as an outdoor pond in the summer, what kind of filter
would you need to use? Nikki

Better would be those $10 to $12 dollar 150g kiddy pools with a black liner
($3) from Wal*Mart. They're cheap, easy to handle, safe around children,
low, and have a large water surface area. You can even put pond plants in
them including mini water lilies. I use small Beckett (from Home Depot)
pumps set in a bucket of gravel and window screen to filter them but even
cheap $10 powerheads work.
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Aquariums since 1952
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I can't, for I am on both Social Security Disablity and housing
assistance,...what is called, "Section Eight Housing". It takes a very
long time just to get on the list, and even longer to actually get a
place to live,... And if I tried to move, I would most likely end up on
the streets. So I stay in an apartment building where the building's
owner doesn't even board up the windows when a hurricane comes, because
he says that he's insured, he doesn't need to. C'est la vie, mon
ami,...Such is life, my friend!~Dean.

And what ever you payed then, would be extremely cheap now,...Ever since
Hurricane Andrew destroyed whole areas, pretty much, including Homestead
Air Force Base, the insurance has gone sky high,...And yet there are
still many, many homes and businesses here that have the
government-issued blue tarps covering the roofs, still waiting for the
government and or insurance money to pay for the much needed repairs
from the damages from the last hurricane. And hurricane season will
shortly be here again, and they say it's gonna be a bad one.

"Papa Red" wrote in message
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And what ever you payed then, would be extremely cheap now,...Ever since
Hurricane Andrew destroyed whole areas, pretty much, including Homestead
Air Force Base, the insurance has gone sky high,...And yet there are
still many, many homes and businesses here that have the
government-issued blue tarps covering the roofs, still waiting for the
government and or insurance money to pay for the much needed repairs
from the damages from the last hurricane. And hurricane season will
shortly be here again, and they say it's gonna be a bad one.
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It looks like Fla isn't one of the cheapest places to live anymore. What a
bummer.
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Koi-Lo.... the ReelMcKoi
Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquarium FAQ are at: http://faq.thekrib.com/
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