African Dwarf Frog floating on top of tank :(

I recently purchased four African Dwarf Frogs. I put two of the
little guys in my one gallon filtered tank with my Betta. One of the
frogs almost immediately floated to the top (well, after an hour) and
he has been there ever since. I purchased (per various pet store
recommendations) quite the variety of food and found that three of the
frogs will eat frozen blood worms. I have never seen poor Floaty eat
anything, though perhaps he eats when I am not looking. When I
carefully touch Floaty he will move so he is alive. For quite some
time he only floated without movement. Yesterday he was quite active
(for him) and wiggled and swam around. At one point I watched him
attempt a number of times to swim to the bottom, only to pop back up
to the top.

One of the frogs in my other tank also started floating, but I suspect
that I overfed him, which can be remedied. However, I am quite
worried about Floaty. Except for this "stuck on the top of the tank"
business, he seems quite healthy. He is absolutely not bloated.
What's going on and what can I do for him?

maybe he's got bloat? and maybe he's inhaled an air bubble??

Not sure, I'll ask my wife about it

"asginpg" wrote in message
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I recently purchased four African Dwarf Frogs. I put two of the
little guys in my one gallon filtered tank with my Betta. One of the
frogs almost immediately floated to the top (well, after an hour) and
he has been there ever since. I purchased (per various pet store
recommendations) quite the variety of food and found that three of the
frogs will eat frozen blood worms. I have never seen poor Floaty eat
anything, though perhaps he eats when I am not looking. When I
carefully touch Floaty he will move so he is alive. For quite some
time he only floated without movement. Yesterday he was quite active
(for him) and wiggled and swam around. At one point I watched him
attempt a number of times to swim to the bottom, only to pop back up
to the top.

One of the frogs in my other tank also started floating, but I suspect
that I overfed him, which can be remedied. However, I am quite
worried about Floaty. Except for this "stuck on the top of the tank"
business, he seems quite healthy. He is absolutely not bloated.
What's going on and what can I do for him?

"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message ...
maybe he's got bloat? and maybe he's inhaled an air bubble??

Not sure, I'll ask my wife about it


Thanks, though Floaty's problems are now much worse. After over three
days at the top of the tank, I found him on the bottom this evening
and thought "hurray!". However, three hours later Floaty was lying
upside down on the bottom looking very dead. I retrieved my net only
to find him sitting on the bottom normally. An hour later, he was
once again upside down. I watched him carefully and he righted himself
for a bit then moved accross the tank and flipped upside down again.
He not bloated and looks normal. I suspect he is not long for this
world. Can't think of what can be done for him.

"asginpg" wrote...

Thanks, though Floaty's problems are now much worse. After over three
days at the top of the tank, I found him on the bottom this evening
and thought "hurray!". However, three hours later Floaty was lying
upside down on the bottom looking very dead. I retrieved my net only
to find him sitting on the bottom normally. An hour later, he was
once again upside down. I watched him carefully and he righted himself
for a bit then moved accross the tank and flipped upside down again.
He not bloated and looks normal. I suspect he is not long for this
world. Can't think of what can be done for him.

i've had this happen to a couple of our frogs in the past too. not sure what it
is, i was hoping to watch this string for an answer.

near as i can tell they seem to just starve themselves to death, whether it be
from a parasite or virus or physical damage i dont know, but they refuse to eat
and end up very skinny, lethargic, and after a while dead. a couple of the web
searches i've done to try and find out have yielded little results.

sorry i cant be of more help, but at least you know you're not alone. :-/

tedd.

Put him on your shoulder and burp him.

"asginpg" wrote in message
om...
I recently purchased four African Dwarf Frogs. I put two of the
little guys in my one gallon filtered tank with my Betta. One of the
frogs almost immediately floated to the top (well, after an hour) and
he has been there ever since. I purchased (per various pet store
recommendations) quite the variety of food and found that three of the
frogs will eat frozen blood worms. I have never seen poor Floaty eat
anything, though perhaps he eats when I am not looking. When I
carefully touch Floaty he will move so he is alive. For quite some
time he only floated without movement. Yesterday he was quite active
(for him) and wiggled and swam around. At one point I watched him
attempt a number of times to swim to the bottom, only to pop back up
to the top.

One of the frogs in my other tank also started floating, but I suspect
that I overfed him, which can be remedied. However, I am quite
worried about Floaty. Except for this "stuck on the top of the tank"
business, he seems quite healthy. He is absolutely not bloated.
What's going on and what can I do for him?

Tedd Jacobs wrote:
"asginpg" wrote...


Thanks, though Floaty's problems are now much worse. After over three
days at the top of the tank, I found him on the bottom this evening
and thought "hurray!". However, three hours later Floaty was lying
upside down on the bottom looking very dead. I retrieved my net only
to find him sitting on the bottom normally. An hour later, he was
once again upside down. I watched him carefully and he righted himself
for a bit then moved accross the tank and flipped upside down again.
He not bloated and looks normal. I suspect he is not long for this
world. Can't think of what can be done for him.


i've had this happen to a couple of our frogs in the past too. not sure what it
is, i was hoping to watch this string for an answer.

near as i can tell they seem to just starve themselves to death, whether it be
from a parasite or virus or physical damage i dont know, but they refuse to eat
and end up very skinny, lethargic, and after a while dead. a couple of the web
searches i've done to try and find out have yielded little results.

sorry i cant be of more help, but at least you know you're not alone. :-/

tedd.



What's your water like? Are you adding anything to it? Too much, too little?

The reason I ask this question is because I was having trouble with
ghost shrimp dying off for no apparent reason. I finally figured out
that the dose of amquel I was using to dechlorinate the water was too
high. I only needed to use a third of what I was using. (I found out
from the water department online that they're using chloramine, and got
a test kit to determine how much is added to the water, it turns out
to be a very small dose).

After I cut back on Amquel my remaing ghost shrimp is still surviving.
She's outlasted any of the ghost shrimp I've put in the tank. I don't
know if this is related, but I thought it might be worth a shot...

--

direct replies: yelohk AT yahoo

My son had a ADF that went through the same thing--
the frog did die eventually, but it took a long time (months).
Basically he spent more and more time upside down
and ate less and less. It was awful. I suspect some sort of
parasite, but I've found no reference to this syndrome.
In retrospect, euthanasia would have been kinder...

-coelacanth

"asginpg" wrote in message
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"RedForeman ©®" wrote in message
...
maybe he's got bloat? and maybe he's inhaled an air bubble??

Not sure, I'll ask my wife about it


Thanks, though Floaty's problems are now much worse. After over three
days at the top of the tank, I found him on the bottom this evening
and thought "hurray!". However, three hours later Floaty was lying
upside down on the bottom looking very dead. I retrieved my net only
to find him sitting on the bottom normally. An hour later, he was
once again upside down. I watched him carefully and he righted himself
for a bit then moved accross the tank and flipped upside down again.
He not bloated and looks normal. I suspect he is not long for this
world. Can't think of what can be done for him.

yk wrote in message ...
What's your water like? Are you adding anything to it? Too much, too little?

Snip

I finally figured out
that the dose of amquel I was using to dechlorinate the water was too
high. I only needed to use a third of what I was using..

I will give that a try, though I declorinate the water and let it sit
for a day or two before using it for both tanks and my other frogs
appear fine. Maybe Floaty is a "canary" frog. I am so paranoid about
chlorine that I have been a little generous with the chemicals.

Thanks for the tip!

Subject: African Dwarf Frog floating on top of tank
From: "RedForeman ©®"
Date: 11/17/2003 3:38 PM Central Standard Time
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maybe he's got bloat? and maybe he's inhaled an air bubble??

Not sure, I'll ask my wife about it

"asginpg" wrote in message
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I recently purchased four African Dwarf Frogs. I put two of the
little guys in my one gallon filtered tank with my Betta. One of the
frogs almost immediately floated to the top (well, after an hour) and
he has been there ever since. I purchased (per various pet store
recommendations) quite the variety of food and found that three of the
frogs will eat frozen blood worms. I have never seen poor Floaty eat
anything, though perhaps he eats when I am not looking. When I
carefully touch Floaty he will move so he is alive. For quite some
time he only floated without movement. Yesterday he was quite active
(for him) and wiggled and swam around. At one point I watched him
attempt a number of times to swim to the bottom, only to pop back up
to the top.

One of the frogs in my other tank also started floating, but I suspect
that I overfed him, which can be remedied. However, I am quite
worried about Floaty. Except for this "stuck on the top of the tank"
business, he seems quite healthy. He is absolutely not bloated.
What's going on and what can I do for him?


Uh oh, sound slike a case of bloat.

Subject: African Dwarf Frog floating on top of tank
From: "Tedd Jacobs"
Date: 11/18/2003 3:24 AM Central Standard Time
Message-id:


"asginpg" wrote...

Thanks, though Floaty's problems are now much worse. After over three
days at the top of the tank, I found him on the bottom this evening
and thought "hurray!". However, three hours later Floaty was lying
upside down on the bottom looking very dead. I retrieved my net only
to find him sitting on the bottom normally. An hour later, he was
once again upside down. I watched him carefully and he righted himself
for a bit then moved accross the tank and flipped upside down again.
He not bloated and looks normal. I suspect he is not long for this
world. Can't think of what can be done for him.

i've had this happen to a couple of our frogs in the past too. not sure what
it
is, i was hoping to watch this string for an answer.

near as i can tell they seem to just starve themselves to death, whether it
be
from a parasite or virus or physical damage i dont know, but they refuse to
eat
and end up very skinny, lethargic, and after a while dead. a couple of the
web
searches i've done to try and find out have yielded little results.

sorry i cant be of more help, but at least you know you're not alone. :-/

tedd.


From what I have read, our little cuties have a tendancy towards bloat. I don't
know exactly what causes it, but it is contagious.
I have never had this problem with any of mine, so I can't help you from
experience, nor can I tell you what to treat them with.
(sorry) It's a start to Google with....just sear African Dwarf Frogs and Bloat.