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  #1  
Old June 4th 04, 02:44 PM
ciel
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Hi all

Newbie here please advise.!!

Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week)
Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals
Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation
2000 Gals in total

Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today)
Amonia= 0
NO3= 0
NO2= 0
PH= 8.5
dKH= 4.5
dGH= 21.....................????!!!
Salinity= 1%

15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi

Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water
Lettuce.....!
Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon
Potash

This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me?
Anyone have a solution please

Many Thanks

Regards
Chris



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Old June 4th 04, 04:35 PM
Charles
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On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel"
wrote:

Hi all

Newbie here please advise.!!

Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week)
Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals
Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation
2000 Gals in total

Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today)
Amonia= 0
NO3= 0
NO2= 0
PH= 8.5
dKH= 4.5
dGH= 21.....................????!!!
Salinity= 1%

15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi

Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water
Lettuce.....!
Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon
Potash

This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me?
Anyone have a solution please

Many Thanks

Regards
Chris




dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is
about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that
I supply a local water garden store.

your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a
problem.

The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they?


--

- Charles
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-does not play well with others
  #3  
Old June 4th 04, 04:52 PM
ciel
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Hi

Thanks for the reply...

I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of
aphids or the like....
I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days

Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help
anyway.
dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc...

I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia Cardinalis.which
is wilting.......
I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho.......

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Regards
Chris


"Charles" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel"
wrote:

Hi all

Newbie here please advise.!!

Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this

week)
Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals
Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation
2000 Gals in total

Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today)
Amonia= 0
NO3= 0
NO2= 0
PH= 8.5
dKH= 4.5
dGH= 21.....................????!!!
Salinity= 1%

15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi

Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water
Lettuce.....!
Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1

tablespoon
Potash

This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me?
Anyone have a solution please

Many Thanks

Regards
Chris




dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is
about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that
I supply a local water garden store.

your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a
problem.

The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they?


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others



  #4  
Old June 4th 04, 08:11 PM
Jim Humphries
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Default High dGH

It does sound like a little fertilizer will fix things, just follow the
instructions.

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Jim and Sara Humphries, Victoria, BC
"ciel" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for the reply...

I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of
aphids or the like....
I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days

Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help
anyway.
dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc...

I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia

Cardinalis.which
is wilting.......
I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho.......

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Regards
Chris


"Charles" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel"
wrote:

Hi all

Newbie here please advise.!!

Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this

week)
Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals
Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation
2000 Gals in total

Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today)
Amonia= 0
NO3= 0
NO2= 0
PH= 8.5
dKH= 4.5
dGH= 21.....................????!!!
Salinity= 1%

15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi

Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water
Lettuce.....!
Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1

tablespoon
Potash

This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me?
Anyone have a solution please

Many Thanks

Regards
Chris




dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is
about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that
I supply a local water garden store.

your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a
problem.

The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they?


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others





  #5  
Old June 4th 04, 08:26 PM
Charles
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Default High dGH

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:52:00 +0100, "ciel"
wrote:

Hi

Thanks for the reply...

I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of
aphids or the like....
I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days

Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help
anyway.
dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc...

I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia Cardinalis.which
is wilting.......
I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho.......

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Regards
Chris

\

Try some of the hyacinths in a separate container, no other plants.

There is a thing called allopathy, some plants harm or kill other
plants with their secretions. I've never heard of water hyacinth
being hurt, but it's worth a try if you have the space.

I've never been able to keep Lobelia, Water Hawthorne dies every year
and water cress tried to take over the whole place.
--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others
  #6  
Old June 4th 04, 08:31 PM
George
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Default High dGH


"ciel" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for the reply...

I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of
aphids or the like....
I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days

Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would help
anyway.


If anything, the hardness should be higher, not lower. My water is much harder
than that, and everything is fine.

dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations etc...

I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia Cardinalis.which
is wilting.......
I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho.......

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Regards
Chris


"Charles" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel"
wrote:

Hi all

Newbie here please advise.!!

Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this

week)
Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals
Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation
2000 Gals in total

Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today)
Amonia= 0
NO3= 0
NO2= 0
PH= 8.5
dKH= 4.5
dGH= 21.....................????!!!
Salinity= 1%

15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi

Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water
Lettuce.....!
Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1

tablespoon
Potash

This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me?
Anyone have a solution please

Many Thanks

Regards
Chris




dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is
about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that
I supply a local water garden store.

your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a
problem.

The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they?


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others





  #7  
Old June 4th 04, 10:00 PM
Nedra
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Default High dGH

With the curling and browning of leaves I suspect the salt. I know the 1%
is supposed
to fine with plants .... but that is my guess. I would add some fresh
water - see if that helps.

Nedra

" George" wrote in message
...

"ciel" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for the reply...

I have no fish in the filter with the plants and can see no evidence of
aphids or the like....
I am hoping the potash will work over the next few days

Can't seem to find any info on reducing hardness or whether it would

help
anyway.


If anything, the hardness should be higher, not lower. My water is much

harder
than that, and everything is fine.

dGH seems to be the only reading that is well above recommendations

etc...

I forgot to mention that another plant affected is Llobelia

Cardinalis.which
is wilting.......
I have Watercress Water Hawthorn and Iris's all doing fine tho.......

Any thoughts would be appreciated

Regards
Chris


"Charles" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel"
wrote:

Hi all

Newbie here please advise.!!

Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this

week)
Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals
Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation
2000 Gals in total

Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today)
Amonia= 0
NO3= 0
NO2= 0
PH= 8.5
dKH= 4.5
dGH= 21.....................????!!!
Salinity= 1%

15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi

Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water
Lettuce.....!
Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1

tablespoon
Potash

This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me?
Anyone have a solution please

Many Thanks

Regards
Chris




dGH is water hardness, and I don't think it is the problem. Mine is
about 55 (varies during the year) and my hyacinths do well enough that
I supply a local water garden store.

your pH is a bit high, but I would think it not enough to be a
problem.

The koi aren't eating off the roots, are they?


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others







  #8  
Old June 5th 04, 06:19 PM
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0.1% is fine with most plants. that is, 0.9lbs salt per 100 gallons. Ingrid

"Nedra" wrote:
With the curling and browning of leaves I suspect the salt. I know the 1%
is supposed
to fine with plants .



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  #9  
Old June 5th 04, 04:45 AM
Tom L. La Bron
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Ciel,

I agree with Nedra, I would suspect your 1%
concentration of salt. If you intent to continue to
keep it in your pond you should work to get it to 0.01%
to 0.03%. Water hyacinth can be bothered by 1% salt,
especially since your GH is 22 degrees. Mine is
usually around 300ppm (16.7 dGH). You should also
check with your water department and see what are your
minerals causing your dGH.

The other thing that I would be concerned with is you
dKH for it is a little close the the low side of the
range. In my opinion it should be between 80ppm (4.5
dKH)and 120ppm (6.8 dKH). I try to keep mine in the
120ppm range.

HTH

Tom L.L.
------------------------------------------
ciel wrote:

Hi all

Newbie here please advise.!!

Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week)
Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals
Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation
2000 Gals in total

Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today)
Amonia= 0
NO3= 0
NO2= 0
PH= 8.5
dKH= 4.5
dGH= 21.....................????!!!
Salinity= 1%

15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi

Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water
Lettuce.....!
Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon
Potash

This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me?
Anyone have a solution please

Many Thanks

Regards
Chris



  #10  
Old June 6th 04, 01:07 AM
~ jan JJsPond.us
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Default High dGH

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004 14:44:48 +0100, "ciel" wrote:

Hi all

Newbie here please advise.!!

Pond is about 9 months old with a 55Gal Biofilter + (UV installed this week)
Plus a newly setup Veg filter 300gals
Plus 2 waterfalls (in and out of veggie filter) for oxygenation
2000 Gals in total

Water Temp 60 degrees (Noon today)
Amonia= 0
NO3= 0
NO2= 0
PH= 8.5


How high does your pH tester read? If only to 8.5, perhaps it is much
higher? Very few plants can take the nutrients they need out of the water
at 8.5 and up. They actually become less effective removing nutrients after
8.0, but can manage, also filter bacteria don't do as well either.

Salt 1% or 0.1%? Big difference, every plant in your pond is gonna succumb
if it truly is 1%.

How old are all your test kits? ~ jan

dKH= 4.5
dGH= 21.....................????!!!
Salinity= 1%

15 fish all under 9" mostly Koi

Water Hyacinths are browning and curling up at edges as is Water
Lettuce.....!
Although yesterday having read various postings on web I added 1 tablespoon
Potash

This dGH reading is worrying me ..what is it telling me?
Anyone have a solution please

Many Thanks

Regards
Chris



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