Little Giant Pumps?

I am in the process of setting up a water garden. Since I'm in the plumbing
business I have access to Little Giant pumps at great pricing. But the
question is: are they any good (longevity, energy consumption, etc.).
Thanks

On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 17:55:40 -0400, "DennisD"
wrote:

===I am in the process of setting up a water garden. Since I'm in the plumbing
===business I have access to Little Giant pumps at great pricing. But the
===question is: are they any good (longevity, energy consumption, etc.).
===Thanks
===


Danner pumps from what I have seen have a little longer warranty and
seem to be a bit more quiet...... I just bought a LG pump and you can
hear it, however my friends danner is quiet as can be even when you
restrict flow considerably. The LG just gets louder when you restrict
it down.........That said, LG has been around a long long time and
that in and for itself should say something about the reliability of
them. The newer LG are just as energy efficient as any of the other
pumps.......and even the older ones were not what I would call energy
hogs.....
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From: "DennisD"


I am in the process of setting up a water garden. Since I'm in the plumbing
business I have access to Little Giant pumps at great pricing. But the
question is: are they any good (longevity, energy consumption, etc.).
Thanks


Just remember Little Giant makes many pumps in the typical plumber's variety
AND as a water garden model, and you may not get the same price for the water
garden model which will be all black with a 16-20' cord instead of the skimpy
6-8 foot cord.

"DennisD" wrote in message
...
I am in the process of setting up a water garden. Since I'm in the
plumbing
business I have access to Little Giant pumps at great pricing. But the
question is: are they any good (longevity, energy consumption, etc.).
Thanks



I haven't used Little Giant so I won't comment on that, but realize that you
will probably spend more money on electricity over time than you will on
your pump. Your great pricing may not be the best in the long run. Danner
and Laguna are efficient pumps for submersibles and external pumps are more
efficient than the best submersibles.

Hum... so, as I approach my 3rd season (second year) with my 1st LG
4300, I can expect it to go "belly up" soon and when it does, I should
consider replacing it with an external pump? What makes the externals
more efficient than the submersibles? So far, I have had IMO, wonderful
success with my two Little Giant 4300's. They are feeding 2 70 gal and
1 100 gal rubbermaid stock tank filters and 1 24'X2'X18" veggie filter
for an approx. 4000 gal pond (irregular shaped - heart or kidney bean -
19' X 21'X 4.5'). What I keep seeing in some of the post is that the
LG's will definitely die and that external pumping is better.
Thanks for you input.
W. Dale

Grubber wrote:

"DennisD" wrote in message
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I am in the process of setting up a water garden. Since I'm in the


plumbing


business I have access to Little Giant pumps at great pricing. But the
question is: are they any good (longevity, energy consumption, etc.).
Thanks





I haven't used Little Giant so I won't comment on that, but realize that you
will probably spend more money on electricity over time than you will on
your pump. Your great pricing may not be the best in the long run. Danner
and Laguna are efficient pumps for submersibles and external pumps are more
efficient than the best submersibles.

LG makes many different pumps and I haven't had one in about 8 years. The
old LG that I had was a 1200 gph pump, and at that time they were made of
some kind of pot metal that was subject to corrosion and were oil filled, so
they would put an oil slick on the water that would cut out oxygen transfer.
The LG that I had, I think, put out more water pressure, so would easily run
higher falls or smaller diameter pipe than the mag drive pumps that I have.
LG now has some energy efficient mag drive pumps, but I don't know if the
housing is still metal or plastic, or whether they are still oil filled.
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"W Dale" wrote in message
...
Hum... so, as I approach my 3rd season (second year) with my 1st LG 4300, I
can expect it to go "belly up" soon and when it does, I should consider
replacing it with an external pump? What makes the externals more efficient
than the submersibles? So far, I have had IMO, wonderful success with my
two Little Giant 4300's. They are feeding 2 70 gal and 1 100 gal rubbermaid
stock tank filters and 1 24'X2'X18" veggie filter for an approx. 4000 gal
pond (irregular shaped - heart or kidney bean - 19' X 21'X 4.5'). What I
keep seeing in some of the post is that the LG's will definitely die and
that external pumping is better.
Thanks for you input.
W. Dale

Grubber wrote:

"DennisD" wrote in message
...

I am in the process of setting up a water garden. Since I'm in the

plumbing

business I have access to Little Giant pumps at great pricing. But the
question is: are they any good (longevity, energy consumption, etc.).
Thanks




I haven't used Little Giant so I won't comment on that, but realize that you
will probably spend more money on electricity over time than you will on
your pump. Your great pricing may not be the best in the long run. Danner
and Laguna are efficient pumps for submersibles and external pumps are more
efficient than the best submersibles.

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 23:59:51 GMT, "RichToyBox"
wrote:

===LG makes many different pumps and I haven't had one in about 8 years. The
===old LG that I had was a 1200 gph pump, and at that time they were made of
===some kind of pot metal that was subject to corrosion and were oil filled, so
===they would put an oil slick on the water that would cut out oxygen transfer.
===The LG that I had, I think, put out more water pressure, so would easily run
===higher falls or smaller diameter pipe than the mag drive pumps that I have.
===LG now has some energy efficient mag drive pumps, but I don't know if the
===housing is still metal or plastic, or whether they are still oil filled.


The little Giant I have is a mag drive and the housing is a polyester
fiber or glass filled fiber, no oil as its a epoxy potted motor.


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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 10:17:18 -0600, W Dale wrote:

Hum... so, as I approach my 3rd season (second year) with my 1st LG
4300, I can expect it to go "belly up" soon and when it does, I should
consider replacing it with an external pump?

A lot depends on where the submersible is placed in the filtration system.
Worst case, in the pond, no pre-filter protection, running sand and
fish/plant debris beside water to the filter, is going to wear on its life.

Whereas, at the end of the filtration system, as in gravity flow to the
filter where the pump pulls it from one chamber to the next and the pump
only pumps the cleanest water, you can expect 8 to 10 years out of most
submersible pond pumps, ime. ~ jan


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We had two Little Giants that lasted about a year. The finish bubbled up as
if it was rusting. When I replaced them, one leaked an oiley substance.

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"DennisD" wrote in message
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I am in the process of setting up a water garden. Since I'm in the
plumbing
business I have access to Little Giant pumps at great pricing. But the
question is: are they any good (longevity, energy consumption, etc.).
Thanks

We got a Little Giant as our first pond pump...before we heard bad things
about their durability and electric consumption. Six years and some months
later, it still runs well on its 24/7 schedule. No leaks, no breaks.
Unsure about cost.

Jim

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"DennisD" wrote in message
...
I am in the process of setting up a water garden. Since I'm in the
plumbing
business I have access to Little Giant pumps at great pricing. But the
question is: are they any good (longevity, energy consumption, etc.).
Thanks