Oh no....

Subject: Oh no....
From: "Gary"
Date: 12/22/2004 9:30 A.M. Central Standard Time
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"Mary Burns" wrote in message
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Vacuuming is only way for nasties!!


What I mean is, the Python Gravel vaccuum has a reverse flow action which
puts the water back in the aquarium (from your tap). But I am not sure how
to put the chemicals in to be on the super safe side.

You simply add the dechlor before you switch the flow. Add it right to the
tank. It doesn't harm the fish.

Subject: Oh no....
From: "Ozdude"
Date: 12/23/2004 7:48 A.M. Central Standard Time
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"Gary" wrote in message
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"Frankster" wrote in message
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I use a python on my 55-gal. I change 50 percent of the water every week
(10 days sometimes). When refilling, I simply add the treatment a little
bit here and there as I fill. No big deal. Remember, you still have half
of the water in the tank to buffer the change as you fill. Really, no big
deal. I've been doing it this way for years. No issues whatsoever.


Thanks Frank!
When Cloramine and Chlorine goes UNTREATED, what happens to the fish?
Obviously I wouldnt dream of not treating the water, but I like to know
why these things are important. All I know at the moment is that the
chemicals in my water are bad, and need removing! Why though?

Gary.


There is also the option of aerating the water as much as possible before
adding it to the tank which has a dispersal effect.

Oz



That will not have any affect on chloramine. It does, however work on chlorine.
Chloramine does not gas out like chlorine does.

bject: Oh no....
From: (Peter Ashby)
Date: 12/23/2004 12:34 P.M. Central Standard Time
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SkyCatcher wrote:

try living in northern ireland surrounded by peat bog and pure acid
straight from the tap is what you get!!

neededless to say i get through a fair bit of bi-carb!

sky

Ditto in Scotland, but I like fish from soft acid water so I'm not
complaining. The problem I have with the thought of adding water
straight from the tap is gas embolism as the tap water is not warm at
the moment.

Why not?
Oh...do you have a separate faucet for hot and then another for cold? If so,
you can't use the Python for adding water back to the tank.
If you have one faucet for both hot and cold...then simply match up the temp at
close as possible with your hand.
I grab a container of tank water...stick it next to my kitchen sink and then
adjust the tap water to the water in the container. It won't be exact, but it
should be close enough not to shock the fish.
What's good about the Python is that you can change the force of the
flow..either when removing water for smaller tanks..then you won't remove too
much water when vacuuming the gravel, or for refilling any tank..I slow it down
so it fills slowly. To change the flow force..simply turn the faucet down for a
decreased flow, or up all the way for full force.

Subject: Oh no....
From: "Dan White"
Date: 12/23/2004 3:24 P.M. Central Standard Time
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"NetMax" wrote in message
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My understanding is that it burns
gill tissues, and kills bacteria (including the good nitrifying bacteria
in your filters). De-chlorinators work in under 10 minutes (according to
my Hagen rep), so adding it to the tank works fine. The active
ingredient will float around harmlessly until it bumps into
chlorine/chloramine molecules (when you start adding the new water).

The stuff I bought removes chlorine and chloramine and was very cheap. It
says to use 1 drop per gallon but of course a stream of drops comes out when
the bottle is new. I still find it amazing that one drop can find all that
chlorine so quickly. When you put that drop in a 55g tank and ask it to
find chlorine from a gallon of water before that chlorine damages a fish or
bacteria seems like something of a risk. Maybe most fish don't get killed
off, but like you say, maybe the fish is being damaged somewhat (like a
little poison). It does seem soooo convenient, though.


What you're forgetting that is that gallon of chlorinated water is also being
quite diluted when you add it to the tank.
It's not like there's a pocket of strongly chlorinated water floating around
that the the water conidtioner needs to find.