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Old February 7th 05, 03:20 PM
Ron
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Hi all . I am living in a large mobile home not motor home but mobile
home and am in the process of setting up a 55 gal tank. Ive been giving it
some thought and I am a bit worried about the weight. I figure it will
weigh in the neighborhood of 550 lbs or so but I believe that weight would
be distributed over the length of the tank so I would think the floor
would hold that weight . I am wondering if the 120 lbs of gravel that will
be in the tank is displacing an equal amount of water or should I add 120
lbs more to the total weight....... My figuring is, if I weigh about 260
and if I put 3 of me in the same area I am sure it would hold that weight.
I hope I am thinking correctly and that the weight of the tank and water
etc doesnt push down on the floor in only the 4 cornors of the tank and I
find the tank and all going through the floor in time. Anyone got any
ideas that can either ease my mind . If not I can see myself crawling
around uinder the home trying to brace the floor .??????? IDEAS anyone
.....Thanks,.Ron


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Old February 7th 05, 04:36 PM
Roy
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Personally I would count the 20 pound of gravel etc as well as the
weight of the tank and stand and asscessores into that
figure..........120 pound of gravel is not going to displace 120 # or
water.................so add it all in together for a bit of a safety
facotr for total weight concerns.

What kind of stand is it on. If its a typical wrought iron / steel
type with 4 points of contact on the floor, I would be concerned. If
its a cabinet model type stand, I would try and situtate it over a
floor joist for additional support. The wrought iron or steel stands
can be set on a piece of plywood to give more thickness and bearing
area, and if you could get under your trailer floor, all it would take
is a couple of blocks under the area or a post from a 2 x 4 etc to
give a bit of peace of mind. Even small pieces of plywood under the
stand (if of the 4 legged variety) will help distribute the weight
more. A lot of mobile homes have OSB or particle board flooring, and
it does not take kindly to pressure being applied to a small area.
Spread out, it does pretty good.

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:20:19 GMT, "Ron"
wrote:

===Hi all . I am living in a large mobile home not motor home but mobile
===home and am in the process of setting up a 55 gal tank. Ive been giving it
===some thought and I am a bit worried about the weight. I figure it will
===weigh in the neighborhood of 550 lbs or so but I believe that weight would
===be distributed over the length of the tank so I would think the floor
===would hold that weight . I am wondering if the 120 lbs of gravel that will
===be in the tank is displacing an equal amount of water or should I add 120
===lbs more to the total weight....... My figuring is, if I weigh about 260
===and if I put 3 of me in the same area I am sure it would hold that weight.
===I hope I am thinking correctly and that the weight of the tank and water
===etc doesnt push down on the floor in only the 4 cornors of the tank and I
===find the tank and all going through the floor in time. Anyone got any
===ideas that can either ease my mind . If not I can see myself crawling
===around uinder the home trying to brace the floor .??????? IDEAS anyone
===....Thanks,.Ron
===



REMEMBER: "This is worth repeating for benefit of al newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS
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Old February 7th 05, 05:10 PM
Ron
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Thanks Roy . After I wrote that post I went to talk to the owner of the
Trailer Park and is familiar with the construction of my trailer. . He also
said what you said If I was to only put a 1x6 the length of the tank ( that
would give the support that is needed and spread the weight out under
the entire tank instead of the four corners ) front and back left to
right a 4 foot piece of 1x6 would help to distribuite the weight .
Of course it would be an eye sore and that is important to the ladies who
by the way it took some convincing to get her to agree to the putting of
this tank in our livingroom . So tonight I will be heading out to our
local home depot store and I will get some 1x6's I will paint it
black to match the iron stand to minumise the not so nice look of this
wooden addition . Thanks Roy for the answer to my question. I am sure if I
just slow down and do this right all will be well ... I started to fill
the tank buit have only put in about 20 gallons which I will remove tonight
and make the footing that will keep my floor from caving in. . Thanks
again Roy.
By the way I keep gold fish and I am sure with this larger tank they will
be very happy critter.....
"Roy" wrote in message
...
Personally I would count the 20 pound of gravel etc as well as the
weight of the tank and stand and asscessores into that
figure..........120 pound of gravel is not going to displace 120 # or
water.................so add it all in together for a bit of a safety
facotr for total weight concerns.

What kind of stand is it on. If its a typical wrought iron / steel
type with 4 points of contact on the floor, I would be concerned. If
its a cabinet model type stand, I would try and situtate it over a
floor joist for additional support. The wrought iron or steel stands
can be set on a piece of plywood to give more thickness and bearing
area, and if you could get under your trailer floor, all it would take
is a couple of blocks under the area or a post from a 2 x 4 etc to
give a bit of peace of mind. Even small pieces of plywood under the
stand (if of the 4 legged variety) will help distribute the weight
more. A lot of mobile homes have OSB or particle board flooring, and
it does not take kindly to pressure being applied to a small area.
Spread out, it does pretty good.

On Mon, 07 Feb 2005 15:20:19 GMT, "Ron"
wrote:

===Hi all . I am living in a large mobile home not motor home but
mobile
===home and am in the process of setting up a 55 gal tank. Ive been
giving it
===some thought and I am a bit worried about the weight. I figure it
will
===weigh in the neighborhood of 550 lbs or so but I believe that weight
would
===be distributed over the length of the tank so I would think the
floor
===would hold that weight . I am wondering if the 120 lbs of gravel
that will
===be in the tank is displacing an equal amount of water or should I
add 120
===lbs more to the total weight....... My figuring is, if I weigh about
260
===and if I put 3 of me in the same area I am sure it would hold that
weight.
===I hope I am thinking correctly and that the weight of the tank and
water
===etc doesnt push down on the floor in only the 4 cornors of the tank
and I
===find the tank and all going through the floor in time. Anyone got
any
===ideas that can either ease my mind . If not I can see myself
crawling
===around uinder the home trying to brace the floor .??????? IDEAS
anyone
===....Thanks,.Ron
===



REMEMBER: "This is worth repeating for benefit of al newbies!
Jo Ann asked Dr. Solo to remind people that while she has retired from
selling GF (and sold
the business to Ken Fischer http://dandyorandas.com/) she has NOT retired
from
helping people with sick GF and koi FOR FREE. 251-649-4790 phoning is
best for
diagnosis. but, can try email put "help sick fish" in subject. Get your
fish at Dandy Orandas
Dandy Orandas Dandy Orandas........you guys got that DANDY ORANDAS



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Old February 7th 05, 06:14 PM
Ron
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Hi Larry Thanks for your imput . Maybe instead of just 1x6's I will get a
piece of 3/4 ply for under the entire tank. and just finish the front and
sides with the 1x6'S. Unfortunatly it is being put in the center of the 14'
trailer against a wall but it doesnt have the same support it would have if
it was put against an outside wall. This is turning out to be some kind of a
project and there is going to be much more expensive than I thought it was
going to be . It cost me 70 dollars for the substraight today and 75.00
for the filter and I got a suspicion its gonna go alot more before this
project if finished . Oh well and they say a boat is nothing but a hole
in the water you keep throwing your money into. LOL . Thanks again Maybe
we will talk again soon . Will let you know how all this ends up LOL Bye
Ron

Looking at your e-mail address I cant figure out where you are . I am
located in Northwestern Vermont



"Larry Blanchard" wrote in message
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In article et,
says...
Hi all . I am living in a large mobile home not motor home but
mobile
home and am in the process of setting up a 55 gal tank. Ive been giving
it
some thought and I am a bit worried about the weight.

If it's a fairly modern double or triple wide there should be no problem
as long as you have it against a wall and not in the middle of the room.

It's also a good idea to spread the weight. Put it on a bookcase or, if
you have a 4 legged stand, put a sheet of 3/4" plywood (tastefully
painted, of course) under it.

I live in a double wide and while my tank isn't that big, I have floor
to ceiling bookcases that weigh as much or more than your tank :-).

--
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