Sliced Aptaisia's?

I have recently won a battle with a terrible purple cyanoslime and I believe
my hair algae is beaten almost to the breaking point (thanks in part to this
site for both of those little triumphs). But now, I'm back to my original
problem of the wonderfully resilient aptaisia. I have tried everything but
the Copperband Butterfly (which everyone has assured me will clean em right
out, but only after it eats all my pretty little fanworms...sniff) and the
aptaisia eating slug (the name escapes me, but I don't want to kill them
once they've finished the job, and I'm not growing aptaisia's to feed them
either!). nothing seems to work... I remove the ones I can from the glass
and sand, but you can't get them off the rocks! I have a peppermint shrimp
in one of my tanks that is doing a decent (but slow) job of getting them
under control, but I can't seem to keep the little pep's alive in my other
tank, perhaps due to a condy anemone or my rather big 'eel goby', so I don't
see how I can solve this problem with pep shrimp alone.
However, the other day, I was cleaning the glass with a razor, and I
figured what the %&*#, why not? I cut one of the little buggers right in
half, quickly disposing of the cut off piece. What was left on the rock was
letting go all these little fine white hairs, and shrivelling up. After
about two days it looked like it was going to recover (it was only a little
grey coloured blob, but it started to turn into an aptaisia coloured blob
again) and then, bang, it was gone. This could have been the result of the
peppermint shrimp taking advantage for an easy meal, but if there is a
chance that it just died on it's own, then I may try it again.
Has Anyone done this? I have read that they can spawn when they are
severely damaged like this (i.e. crushed into rock or tweezered) but I'm not
sure that it had time with the method I used. Where the little white
strings some kind of spore type things that are gonna grow into a million
more? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

A simple solution to an annoying problem ,,, a product called Joe's Juice

Here is what it claims:

"Joe's Juice eliminates unwanted Aiptasia and Majano anemones from reef
tanks. Within minutes of feeding the anemone a small amount of Joe's Juice
it will disappear, with no need to siphon it out of the aquarium. Since you
feed the problem anemones directly any other anemones in the tank will not
be affected in any way. Completely reef safe, Joe's Juice will not effect
water chemistry. Plastic applicator is included."

I've used it - it works - none of my aptaisia has survived 2 applications -
you feed the aptaisia Joe's Juice from the included syringe. Joe's Juice
looks like white latex paint. The aptaisia readily consume it instead of
flinching away. I'm not sure what Joe's Juice does to kill the aptaisia -
terminal constipation??
btw I've used the Juice around my large leather, hammer head and frogspawn
corals with no ill effects



"computom" wrote in message
.. .
I have recently won a battle with a terrible purple cyanoslime and I
believe
my hair algae is beaten almost to the breaking point (thanks in part to
this
site for both of those little triumphs). But now, I'm back to my original
problem of the wonderfully resilient aptaisia. I have tried everything
but
the Copperband Butterfly (which everyone has assured me will clean em
right
out, but only after it eats all my pretty little fanworms...sniff) and the
aptaisia eating slug (the name escapes me, but I don't want to kill them
once they've finished the job, and I'm not growing aptaisia's to feed them
either!). nothing seems to work... I remove the ones I can from the glass
and sand, but you can't get them off the rocks! I have a peppermint
shrimp
in one of my tanks that is doing a decent (but slow) job of getting them
under control, but I can't seem to keep the little pep's alive in my other
tank, perhaps due to a condy anemone or my rather big 'eel goby', so I
don't
see how I can solve this problem with pep shrimp alone.
However, the other day, I was cleaning the glass with a razor, and I
figured what the %&*#, why not? I cut one of the little buggers right in
half, quickly disposing of the cut off piece. What was left on the rock
was
letting go all these little fine white hairs, and shrivelling up. After
about two days it looked like it was going to recover (it was only a
little
grey coloured blob, but it started to turn into an aptaisia coloured blob
again) and then, bang, it was gone. This could have been the result of
the
peppermint shrimp taking advantage for an easy meal, but if there is a
chance that it just died on it's own, then I may try it again.
Has Anyone done this? I have read that they can spawn when they are
severely damaged like this (i.e. crushed into rock or tweezered) but I'm
not
sure that it had time with the method I used. Where the little white
strings some kind of spore type things that are gonna grow into a million
more? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Joe's juice huh? I did a little reading, but I can't seem to find anything
that tells me what is in it, or how/why it works. I appreciate the tip,
Brian, but does anybody know what this stuff is? I am very particular
about putting any chemicals in my reef, whether the bottle says it's safe or
not. I have a lot of these little buggers in my tank, I'm thinking I would
need a lot of this stuff to do the job.
Brian... did you ever try the slicing method? If so, what happened?
Thanks again.


"Brian W" wrote in message
.. .
A simple solution to an annoying problem ,,, a product called Joe's Juice

Here is what it claims:

"Joe's Juice eliminates unwanted Aiptasia and Majano anemones from reef
tanks. Within minutes of feeding the anemone a small amount of Joe's Juice
it will disappear, with no need to siphon it out of the aquarium. Since
you
feed the problem anemones directly any other anemones in the tank will not
be affected in any way. Completely reef safe, Joe's Juice will not effect
water chemistry. Plastic applicator is included."

I've used it - it works - none of my aptaisia has survived 2
applications -
you feed the aptaisia Joe's Juice from the included syringe. Joe's Juice
looks like white latex paint. The aptaisia readily consume it instead of
flinching away. I'm not sure what Joe's Juice does to kill the aptaisia -
terminal constipation??
btw I've used the Juice around my large leather, hammer head and frogspawn
corals with no ill effects

"computom" wrote in message
.. .

| ... did you ever try the slicing method? If so, what happened?
| Thanks again.


From what I have read, even a small piece of aiptasia can develop
into a new anemone.

I've sliced, diced, mashed and pureed the wretched things and all I've ever
gotten for my efforts are a lot more aptaisias.

Like I said, Ive used Joe's Juice next to my large leather coral and its
"baby" and actually managed to get some on them. All that happened was that
the polyps closed briefly and then re-opened. Aptaisias on the other hand
close around Joe's Juice and then shrink into a wilted looking ball before
either succumbing or coming back a week or 2 later much subdued - a 2nd
application takes care of any of the more robust aptaisia.

As for quantity to kill - it takes a mL or less to nuke the typical
aptaisia. I've used peppermint shrimp to control the aptaisia and they do a
reasonable job but wouldn't tackle the bigger aptaisias. Unfortunately my
serpent star developed a taste for the shrimp and effectively ended that
control method for me...

I definitely have NOT seen any bad effects in from Joe's Juice - the tank I
used it in, is only 20 gallons - like you I'm really twitchy about using
chemicals since the ecology in a small tank is especially delicate... I
think putting my ungloved hand into the tank was much more of an impact..

B
"computom" wrote in message
.. .
Joe's juice huh? I did a little reading, but I can't seem to find
anything
that tells me what is in it, or how/why it works. I appreciate the tip,
Brian, but does anybody know what this stuff is? I am very particular
about putting any chemicals in my reef, whether the bottle says it's safe
or
not. I have a lot of these little buggers in my tank, I'm thinking I
would
need a lot of this stuff to do the job.
Brian... did you ever try the slicing method? If so, what happened?
Thanks again.


"Brian W" wrote in message
.. .
A simple solution to an annoying problem ,,, a product called Joe's
Juice

Here is what it claims:

"Joe's Juice eliminates unwanted Aiptasia and Majano anemones from reef
tanks. Within minutes of feeding the anemone a small amount of Joe's
Juice
it will disappear, with no need to siphon it out of the aquarium. Since
you
feed the problem anemones directly any other anemones in the tank will
not
be affected in any way. Completely reef safe, Joe's Juice will not
effect
water chemistry. Plastic applicator is included."

I've used it - it works - none of my aptaisia has survived 2
applications -
you feed the aptaisia Joe's Juice from the included syringe. Joe's
Juice
looks like white latex paint. The aptaisia readily consume it instead
of
flinching away. I'm not sure what Joe's Juice does to kill the
aptaisia -
terminal constipation??
btw I've used the Juice around my large leather, hammer head and
frogspawn
corals with no ill effects

They multiply when there's too many nutrients in the tank. Do frequent water
changes. I have a few but they're kept in check by keeping my water nutrient
poor.

--
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates who once said, "I drank
what?".

I r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d



"B" wrote in message
news
I've sliced, diced, mashed and pureed the wretched things and all I've
ever
gotten for my efforts are a lot more aptaisias.

Like I said, Ive used Joe's Juice next to my large leather coral and its
"baby" and actually managed to get some on them. All that happened was
that
the polyps closed briefly and then re-opened. Aptaisias on the other hand
close around Joe's Juice and then shrink into a wilted looking ball before
either succumbing or coming back a week or 2 later much subdued - a 2nd
application takes care of any of the more robust aptaisia.

As for quantity to kill - it takes a mL or less to nuke the typical
aptaisia. I've used peppermint shrimp to control the aptaisia and they do
a
reasonable job but wouldn't tackle the bigger aptaisias. Unfortunately my
serpent star developed a taste for the shrimp and effectively ended that
control method for me...

I definitely have NOT seen any bad effects in from Joe's Juice - the tank
I
used it in, is only 20 gallons - like you I'm really twitchy about using
chemicals since the ecology in a small tank is especially delicate... I
think putting my ungloved hand into the tank was much more of an impact..

B
"computom" wrote in message
.. .
Joe's juice huh? I did a little reading, but I can't seem to find
anything
that tells me what is in it, or how/why it works. I appreciate the tip,
Brian, but does anybody know what this stuff is? I am very particular
about putting any chemicals in my reef, whether the bottle says it's safe
or
not. I have a lot of these little buggers in my tank, I'm thinking I
would
need a lot of this stuff to do the job.
Brian... did you ever try the slicing method? If so, what happened?
Thanks again.


"Brian W" wrote in message
.. .
A simple solution to an annoying problem ,,, a product called Joe's
Juice

Here is what it claims:

"Joe's Juice eliminates unwanted Aiptasia and Majano anemones from reef
tanks. Within minutes of feeding the anemone a small amount of Joe's
Juice
it will disappear, with no need to siphon it out of the aquarium. Since
you
feed the problem anemones directly any other anemones in the tank will
not
be affected in any way. Completely reef safe, Joe's Juice will not
effect
water chemistry. Plastic applicator is included."

I've used it - it works - none of my aptaisia has survived 2
applications -
you feed the aptaisia Joe's Juice from the included syringe. Joe's
Juice
looks like white latex paint. The aptaisia readily consume it instead
of
flinching away. I'm not sure what Joe's Juice does to kill the
aptaisia -
terminal constipation??
btw I've used the Juice around my large leather, hammer head and
frogspawn
corals with no ill effects

I believe I wasn't too clear when I was writing down the original post.
After I cut the aptaisia, it shrivelled up, then Completely disappeared
after 2 days, I believe that what happened was that the peppermint shrimp
ate it while it was recovering. this was one of the bigger ones you mention
that they don't seem to touch. I guess this is sort of a combo attack,
slice and shrimp the little buggers. I don't think I'll try Joe's Juice
because no-one knows what's in it and I'm not at all comfortable with
that.... I got rid of my cyano and GHA without miracle cures and I think I
can do it with this little setback as well.
"B" wrote in message
news
I've sliced, diced, mashed and pureed the wretched things and all I've
ever
gotten for my efforts are a lot more aptaisias.

Like I said, Ive used Joe's Juice next to my large leather coral and its
"baby" and actually managed to get some on them. All that happened was
that
the polyps closed briefly and then re-opened. Aptaisias on the other hand
close around Joe's Juice and then shrink into a wilted looking ball before
either succumbing or coming back a week or 2 later much subdued - a 2nd
application takes care of any of the more robust aptaisia.

As for quantity to kill - it takes a mL or less to nuke the typical
aptaisia. I've used peppermint shrimp to control the aptaisia and they do
a
reasonable job but wouldn't tackle the bigger aptaisias. Unfortunately my
serpent star developed a taste for the shrimp and effectively ended that
control method for me...

I definitely have NOT seen any bad effects in from Joe's Juice - the tank
I
used it in, is only 20 gallons - like you I'm really twitchy about using
chemicals since the ecology in a small tank is especially delicate... I
think putting my ungloved hand into the tank was much more of an impact..