Gravel with a warranty

I'm just in the process of setting up two new aquariums, and I happened
to read the "directions" on the back of one of my bags of
"Estes'"gravel. I felt reassured to read that this gravel carried a
manufacturer's guarantee: "If this product is found faulty due to
workmanship it will be replaced."

So far, this gravel is performing within my expectations for gravel, but
I have put my receipt in a safe place just in case I experience a sudden
gravel failure of some sort. Although I had been previously unaware of
the phenomenon of defective gravel, I now feel quite reassured.

The Estes' website goes even further to reassure me:
http://www.estesco.com/beliefs.html

--
Ian.
(Now Playing: Satisfaction Guaranteed - Aquarium Rescue Unit)

Haha...I hate to rain on your sarcastic parade but I thought on it for a
moment. Some gravels are coated in a paint/paint-like coloring and that may
be what they are talking about. I realized this when I was asking about
certain brand names a while back and the lady in the LPS said that some
gravels leech this coating which turns the water and may kill or sicken your
fish.

-Sean

"Ionizer" wrote in message
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I'm just in the process of setting up two new aquariums, and I happened to
read the "directions" on the back of one of my bags of "Estes'"gravel. I
felt reassured to read that this gravel carried a manufacturer's
guarantee: "If this product is found faulty due to workmanship it will be
replaced."

So far, this gravel is performing within my expectations for gravel, but I
have put my receipt in a safe place just in case I experience a sudden
gravel failure of some sort. Although I had been previously unaware of
the phenomenon of defective gravel, I now feel quite reassured.

The Estes' website goes even further to reassure me:
http://www.estesco.com/beliefs.html

--
Ian.
(Now Playing: Satisfaction Guaranteed - Aquarium Rescue Unit)

I am sure the leeching occurs in sal****er setups. It says in one of my
catalogs for estes gravel to never use it in a sal****er tank. I
imagine that the enamel on the gravel (I think the enamel on the gravel
smoothes the edges so there aren't any sharp edges that fish could hurt
themselves on and the gravel is somewhat pebbly because of the enamel)
could deteriorate in sal****er and could damage or kill sal****er fish
in that sal****er tank. My initial reaction to the op's post was to
laugh but yeah, you should never use estes gravel in a sal****er tank
unless it says you can on the actual package of gravel (i.e. in other
words if estes makes a sal****er gravel). Important note. Later!

Wow! I never thought about that. I have (as I recall) Estes' Ultrastone
gravel. (The kids picked the colors.) Some are broken or chipped and have
exposed a white interior. Should I be concerned about the interior or the
outside coloring?

Thanks,
Dave

"Sean" wrote in message
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Haha...I hate to rain on your sarcastic parade but I thought on it for
a moment. Some gravels are coated in a paint/paint-like coloring and that
may be what they are talking about. I realized this when I was asking
about certain brand names a while back and the lady in the LPS said that
some gravels leech this coating which turns the water and may kill or
sicken your fish.

-Sean

"Ionizer" wrote in message
...
I'm just in the process of setting up two new aquariums, and I happened
to read the "directions" on the back of one of my bags of "Estes'"gravel.
I felt reassured to read that this gravel carried a manufacturer's
guarantee: "If this product is found faulty due to workmanship it will
be replaced."

So far, this gravel is performing within my expectations for gravel, but
I have put my receipt in a safe place just in case I experience a sudden
gravel failure of some sort. Although I had been previously unaware of
the phenomenon of defective gravel, I now feel quite reassured.

The Estes' website goes even further to reassure me:
http://www.estesco.com/beliefs.html

--
Ian.
(Now Playing: Satisfaction Guaranteed - Aquarium Rescue Unit)

Estes gravel IS good gravel - just never use it in a sal****er tank!
Later!

Ionizer wrote:
I'm just in the process of setting up two new aquariums, and I happened
to read the "directions" on the back of one of my bags of
"Estes'"gravel. I felt reassured to read that this gravel carried a
manufacturer's guarantee: "If this product is found faulty due to
workmanship it will be replaced."

So far, this gravel is performing within my expectations for gravel, but
I have put my receipt in a safe place just in case I experience a sudden
gravel failure of some sort. Although I had been previously unaware of
the phenomenon of defective gravel, I now feel quite reassured.

The Estes' website goes even further to reassure me:
http://www.estesco.com/beliefs.html

Heh. One of my fish store friends called the really bright multicolored
gravel "clown puke" behind the customers' backs. Nice to know clown
puke is guaranteed and backed by God himself. ;-)

--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com

Elaine T wrote:
Ionizer wrote:

I'm just in the process of setting up two new aquariums, and I
happened to read the "directions" on the back of one of my bags of
"Estes'"gravel. I felt reassured to read that this gravel carried a
manufacturer's guarantee: "If this product is found faulty due to
workmanship it will be replaced."

So far, this gravel is performing within my expectations for gravel,
but I have put my receipt in a safe place just in case I experience a
sudden gravel failure of some sort. Although I had been previously
unaware of the phenomenon of defective gravel, I now feel quite
reassured.

The Estes' website goes even further to reassure me:
http://www.estesco.com/beliefs.html

Heh. One of my fish store friends called the really bright multicolored
gravel "clown puke" behind the customers' backs. Nice to know clown
puke is guaranteed and backed by God himself. ;-)

Guaranteed by supernatural forces, ay? Doh! I'd better start praying now.

Nikki

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Ionizer wrote:
I felt reassured to read that this gravel carried a
manufacturer's guarantee: "If this product is found faulty due to
workmanship it will be replaced."


Heh. One of my fish store friends called the really bright multicolored
gravel "clown puke" behind the customers' backs. Nice to know clown
puke is guaranteed and backed by God himself. ;-)

But it still isn't worth **** for a planted tank :-). And, IMNSHO,
there ain't no other kind!

--
Homo sapiens is a goal, not a description

"lgb" wrote in message
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Heh. One of my fish store friends called the really bright multicolored
gravel "clown puke" behind the customers' backs. Nice to know clown
puke is guaranteed and backed by God himself. ;-)

But it still isn't worth **** for a planted tank :-). And, IMNSHO,
there ain't no other kind!

If I switched from the clown puke to natural pebbles, will it make any
difference for my plants?

Dave

David J. Braunegg wrote:
"lgb" wrote in message
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Heh. One of my fish store friends called the really bright multicolored
gravel "clown puke" behind the customers' backs. Nice to know clown
puke is guaranteed and backed by God himself. ;-)


But it still isn't worth **** for a planted tank :-). And, IMNSHO,
there ain't no other kind!


If I switched from the clown puke to natural pebbles, will it make any
difference for my plants?

Dave


Size is very important for plant substrate. If you have pebbles or
pea-sized gravel of any color and switch to 2-3 mm or finer (down to
coarse sand) of any color, your plants will root better. Also, less
gunk will be trapped deep in the gravel so you don't have to gravel-vac
around the plants and disturb the roots. For inert quartz gravel or
sand, coated or uncoated does not really matter.

Good plant media like Flourite, Onyx, or Eco Complete are uncoated clays
and have additional functions. They contain minerals which the plants
can use and trap nutrients from the water and release it to the roots of
the growing plant. If you want to grow plants like swords, grasses, or
crypts that rely heavily on their roots, these substrates work better
than normal gravels.

If you want a specific look or color, you can buy a fine brightly
colored gravel or sand and mix laterite clay into the bottom half. The
laterite will also provide iron and minerals and works very well. Just
don't stir up or vac the bottom half of the gravel or you get a cloud of
laterite billowing into the tank.

Color affects fish rather than plants. Shy fish tend to show their
colors better over darker colors than bright ones. This becomes less of
an issue when all the substrate is covered with plants. ;-)

--
Elaine T __
http://eethomp.com/fish.html '__
rec.aquaria.* FAQ http://faq.thekrib.com