External pumps and priming pots

If I install a pump basket/leaf basket/priming pot (constructed of a 5
gallon bucket, for example), will I still need to purchase 'their'
priming pots/leaf baskets to install on the pump as well? I would think
the first in-line filter should take care of the concerns address by the
fancy priming pots. They look very nice and I am sure work well. The
largest one I see online is over $200.00 US.
Thanks for you input.
W. Dale

I don't use priming pots on two of my pumps, but do, at least for now on the
third. The idea is to keep leaves and other large debris out of the pump
impellers. I had two frogs take the trip the first year, and had to cut
piping to get one of them out. Since then, I have installed some kind of
screen at all intakes to keep frogs out. The third pump was installed last
year, and part of the plumbing was not activated until this spring. Dang
frog found the pipe before I got the frog stopper installed, and I found him
with his head in the pump.
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http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html

"Wilmdale" wrote in message
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If I install a pump basket/leaf basket/priming pot (constructed of a 5
gallon bucket, for example), will I still need to purchase 'their'
priming pots/leaf baskets to install on the pump as well? I would think
the first in-line filter should take care of the concerns address by the
fancy priming pots. They look very nice and I am sure work well. The
largest one I see online is over $200.00 US.
Thanks for you input.
W. Dale

If the pump is below the ponds water level youdo not really need a
priming pot, as long as yuou install a prefilter or strainer to keep
as much of the larger debri out of the pump. If the pump is above the
ponds water level, a priming pot makes it a lot easier to prime the
pump if its not a self priming pump. Another good source for a
strainer for the intake on a pump is the extruded mesh tube made out
of polyethylene. It is available in 1, 1 1/4, 1 1/2, 2, 3 and 4 inch
sizes, and it slips over all the commonly availbale PVC pipes uses. It
provides more than adequate straining to keep debri out of the pump
and its black in color. AES sells it, its relatively cheap, IIRC I
paid something like 14.00 for a 44" x 4" piece and its very effetive
in keeping leaves and such out of the pump. I also use a primer
pot/strainer as my pump is located abaove the ponds water
level.........

On Sun, 05 Jun 2005 16:24:07 -0600, Wilmdale
wrote:

===If I install a pump basket/leaf basket/priming pot (constructed of a 5
===gallon bucket, for example), will I still need to purchase 'their'
===priming pots/leaf baskets to install on the pump as well? I would think
===the first in-line filter should take care of the concerns address by the
===fancy priming pots. They look very nice and I am sure work well. The
===largest one I see online is over $200.00 US.
===Thanks for you input.
===W. Dale


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You can get a 2" primer pot/ strainer basket from AZ ponds for about
$70.00. The basket is approx 2 quarts in size or so, and is plenty
large for a filtered liner type pond. I use this type in my natural
pond which is full of junk that gets pulled in through my initial
strainer, and also the primer pot leaf basket assembly, and I still
only have to clean it maybe once a month. I still like a intake
staianer in the pond with decent size and debri catching ability, that
can collect a heap of junk and still have lots of room left.....for
more......Thats why those extruded plastic tubes straners are so nice,
especially if you install it vertically, it rarely will ever block
from accumulated trash.

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~Roy~ wrote:

You can get a 2" primer pot/ strainer basket from AZ ponds for about
$70.00. The basket is approx 2 quarts in size or so, and is plenty
large for a filtered liner type pond. I use this type in my natural
pond which is full of junk that gets pulled in through my initial
strainer, and also the primer pot leaf basket assembly, and I still
only have to clean it maybe once a month. I still like a intake
staianer in the pond with decent size and debri catching ability, that
can collect a heap of junk and still have lots of room left.....for
more......Thats why those extruded plastic tubes straners are so nice,
especially if you install it vertically, it rarely will ever block
from accumulated trash.

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Ok, Thanks everybody! I will indeed get a settling tank / leaf trap
filter installed on the intake of the pumps and the priming pots as
well. That should take care of things.
You have been most helpful!
Have a great Monday!
W. Dale

Check out this link for the extruded ridgit strainer tube material.

http://www.aquaticeco.com/index.cfm/.../iid/8560/cid/

Using stanbard PVC pipe fittings, like say a 4" coupling and a small
section of 4" pipe, and a 4 x 2" reducer fitting, all fit to each
other (reducer /coupling/pipe) and a 2" sweep ell, you can insert a
2" diam suction line from the pump into the 2" portion of the
reducer., and extend it up inside the reducer fitting say 4 or 5
inches, so it forms a standpipe and is not pulling sediment right off
the bottom. Slip the perferated strainer tube over the end of the 4"
pipe, and ectent the tube as far as you want vertically in the pond.
You can cap with a common PVC pressure test cap or even the standard
PVC caps. By standing it vertically, it pulls from all levels of the
water column, and the standpipe which would extend up inside the
strainer stops sediement from going through thus further eliminating
more trash in the strainer baskets. Since the strainer tube is not
glued on and is merely a snug slip fit its easy to pull off to clean
or a standard toilet bowl brush can be run down inside and around the
outside to knock off any algae etc .

I have my standpipe extending 8" vertically with 36" of the strainer
tube ectending upwards vertically, so it effectively strains out any
junk as my ponds water level rises and falls, and it is really pretty
well out of sight since its only 4" in diameter and sets along one
enclosure wall....Its black material but you can also get it in clear
/ opaque white.

My friend wraps his strainer tube in filter batting to further strain
out finer trash, but he winds up having to clean his quite often. Its
merely a primary strainer intended to filter out particles would could
damage a pump, and its not intended to be a actual filter like he is
using it for. The openings in this tube strainer is pretty small so
you do not have to worry about much getting through it.

4" is now listed for $16.xx a stick thats 44" long.......

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Wilmdale wrote:
If I install a pump basket/leaf basket/priming pot (constructed of a 5
gallon bucket, for example), will I still need to purchase 'their'
priming pots/leaf baskets to install on the pump as well? I would think
the first in-line filter should take care of the concerns address by the
fancy priming pots. They look very nice and I am sure work well. The
largest one I see online is over $200.00 US.
Thanks for you input.
W. Dale

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