Patience/Frustration I need your help

All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.


My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.



Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.

Oh yeah one more thing the 3 maxi jets are on a red sea wavemaster pro.
I also have a sand sifting star along with many snails and hermits, I even
have 2 green emerald crabs. But this red stuff gets on the rocks and the
sand bed and is real thick but when you try to scope it out of the sand it
breaks up very easily.

"Layer3guru" wrote in message
...
All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.


My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.



Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.

Sand sifting stars eat the beneficial microfauna you want, killing your sand
bed. That could be a part of the problem.

If you don't have a refugium, you should consider it because the Macro algae
will outcompete microalgae growth in the display tank.

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

Oh yeah one more thing the 3 maxi jets are on a red sea wavemaster pro.
I also have a sand sifting star along with many snails and hermits, I even
have 2 green emerald crabs. But this red stuff gets on the rocks and the
sand bed and is real thick but when you try to scope it out of the sand it
breaks up very easily.

"Layer3guru" wrote in message
...
All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.


My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.



Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.



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Here's my maybe peculiar experience. I had no red algae at all, never
even a hint of it. Then I got the cpr hob refugium and put a little pc
over it, sand and rock and green stuff in it. Days later, the evil red
slime came on with a vengence. The refugium, especially, was totally
coated. Fortunately, it occurred to me that the light might have been
excessive. I turned it off, cleaned up the little 'fuge and it all went
away. Now I turn on the light twice a day for an hour or two and I have
no problem. I don't know if any of this applies to your situation, of
course.

rtk



Layer3guru wrote:
All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.


My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.



Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.

"rtk" wrote in message
...
Here's my maybe peculiar experience. I had no red algae at all, never
even a hint of it. Then I got the cpr hob refugium and put a little pc
over it, sand and rock and green stuff in it. Days later, the evil red
slime came on with a vengence. The refugium, especially, was totally
coated. Fortunately, it occurred to me that the light might have been
excessive. I turned it off, cleaned up the little 'fuge and it all went
away. Now I turn on the light twice a day for an hour or two and I have
no problem. I don't know if any of this applies to your situation, of
course.

rtk

My guess is your and Layer3guru lamp maybe shift to bad spectrum. I have my
lamp running about 10hrs each day without problem with any type of algae.
BTW, I had to overfeed to get some algae start growing.

CapFusion,...

Cyano is usually beaten when Phosphates are close to zero, and circulation is
good.

The stuff you showed in the picture (remove the / at the end of the URL for it
to work) should by siphoned out of your tank with airline tubing. Get as much
of it out of your tank as you can see and reach. If you need to, attach a piece
of rigid tubing to the flexible kind, to have better control.

I'm not a fan of the toothbrush method, because it just spreads stuff elsewhere.

You might try feeding only once a day.

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.

My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.

Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.

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I was told because my sand bed is so shallow that I need to be siphoning it
when I do water changes.

It was recommended that I siphon the bed and then add more sand to at least
get 4 to 6 inches of depth all around.

What do you all think?
"Layer3guru" wrote in message
...
All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.


My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.



Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.

I have used Chemi Cleam a few times and it has done a pretty good job each
time. It is not cheap though...$19.99 for enough to treat about 200 gallons.
Keep in mind that you usually want to dose it twice.....the seconds time 48
hours after the initial dose. Any turn your skimmer off during this time. Hope
that helps.

I know some gusy siphon their sand, especially when it is shallow. I would let
nature do that for me, with Fighting Conchs and Nassarious snails.

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

I was told because my sand bed is so shallow that I need to be siphoning it
when I do water changes.

It was recommended that I siphon the bed and then add more sand to at least
get 4 to 6 inches of depth all around.

What do you all think?
"Layer3guru" wrote in message
...
All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with, the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have shrooms
and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/ I
was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and on
the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.


My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every now
and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.



Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.



--
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Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com

I have like 6 King Nassarious snails.
And they do bury themselves in the sand becausethe family likes to watch
when I feed because it is like magic to watch them surface out of the sand
at feeding time.

"Marc Levenson" wrote in message
...
I know some gusy siphon their sand, especially when it is shallow. I
would let
nature do that for me, with Fighting Conchs and Nassarious snails.

Marc


Layer3guru wrote:

I was told because my sand bed is so shallow that I need to be siphoning
it
when I do water changes.

It was recommended that I siphon the bed and then add more sand to at
least
get 4 to 6 inches of depth all around.

What do you all think?
"Layer3guru" wrote in message
...
All,

I am having terrible problems with red slime algae no matter what I do
I
can't get rid of it. I am using RO/DI unit brand new to top off with,
the
tank is 8 months old. I have spent a ton of money to try and do this
right
but this red algae is really testing my patience what sucks is I use
the
same water from my RO/DI unit to top off my freshwater tank from time
to
time also and I get no algae at all in my fresh water tank. This
morning I
spent brushing my live rock with a brand new tooth brush never used
before
to get this stuff off my rock. Here is my setup below along with water
parameters any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yeah I have
shrooms
and
polyps in this tank that are growing like crazy. You can see a picture
of
the slime I am talking about at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/1.JPG/
I
was
using a modified seaclone at one time because it was given to me and
on
the
pics page you can see it pulled out dark skim, but I decided to buy a
cpr
bakpak 2r which does a much better job in my opinion.

I feed twice a day a mixture of foods
Mysis
Formula One
Pygmy Angel Formula
And I feed thawed shrimp to the anemone's, I started with one but it
split

Water Parameters taken this morning
salinity 1.024
ph 8.0
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate 5.0
Ca 445

As I stated any help would be greatly appreciated.


My Setup

55 Gallon

60 pounds Live Sand about 3 1/2 inch bed

80 Pounds Tampa Live Rock

1 150watt Heater

1 100watt Heater

3 MaxiJet 1200 for water circulation

1 ProQuatics 1600 Canister nothing in it besides using phosban every
now
and
again.

1 CPR Bak Pak 2r

260 watts of lighting 10hours a day by timer 2actinics 2 10,000 white.



Old Pictures Seen at http://www.digitalrage.org/tank/ I will get
around to
taking newer pictures soon I hope.



--
Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com