Filters for LARGE tanks

HI

I am starting plans for a 1000G tank and am trying to get as much
information in advance as possible. The current question is FILTERS???

Any suggestions? This will be a Fresh Water Game Fish Tank. Crappies,
Bluegills (brem), Trout, Bass and the like. I am currently running a 120G
and the filtering load is quite heavy. Someone mentioned a swimming pool
(sand) filter, but I think it will plug up quickly.

Thanks for all your help.

JOhn :-)

"(((\" John Lange" wrote in
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HI

I am starting plans for a 1000G tank and am trying to get as much
information in advance as possible. The current question is FILTERS???

Any suggestions? This will be a Fresh Water Game Fish Tank. Crappies,
Bluegills (brem), Trout, Bass and the like. I am currently running a 120G
and the filtering load is quite heavy. Someone mentioned a swimming pool
(sand) filter, but I think it will plug up quickly.

Thanks for all your help.

JOhn :-)



You might do well with a nice 200 or 300 gallon sump running 100% biological
filtration. There was quite an interesting setup by a guy once who had a
4000 gallon reef tank in his basement (well it WAS his basement), and as
filtration he had three 300 gallon tanks behind it that were full of a
special aquatic plant that did all the bio filtration. The tank was so large
that the ecosystem basically took care of anything the sumps didn't.. waste,
dead animals, et cetera. The site was mr4000.com but it's down now. Good
luck.

"\(\(\(\\\" John Lange" wrote:
HI

I am starting plans for a 1000G tank and am trying to get as much

Dude, that's not a tank, that's a swimming pool.




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"(((\" John Lange" wrote in
message ...
HI

I am starting plans for a 1000G tank and am trying to get as much
information in advance as possible. The current question is FILTERS???

Any suggestions? This will be a Fresh Water Game Fish Tank. Crappies,
Bluegills (brem), Trout, Bass and the like. I am currently running a
120G
and the filtering load is quite heavy. Someone mentioned a swimming
pool
(sand) filter, but I think it will plug up quickly.

Thanks for all your help.

JOhn :-)

A standard pool pump and sand filter should do 1000g easily, however for
this type of a system, you need to backwash it regularly. I have one
running an 850g pond of Koi & GF. Every morning it gets an 8 second
backwash. You cannot have live plants in the tank as this will clog your
intakes or pump screens too fast (though with your mix of fish, I don't
think you will be using live plants ;~). Consider pumping the water back
above the tank (a waterfall) for some extra oxygenation (I remember how
you liked to load up your tanks ;o)

NetMax

Overloading tanks is just for BAIT...

I currently have a 120G with 3 Bluegills and a juvenal Tiger Muskie. The
problem is that the Tiger Muskie has tripled in size in 2 months. Went from
9" long and 1" in diameter to 13" long and 2 1/2" just feeding him and
all-you-can-eat buffet of Crappie Minnows and Lake Shiners.

Thanks for the Pool Filter input. I will also check out the pond group &
sites.

Thanks

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"(((\" John Lange" wrote in
message ...
HI

I am starting plans for a 1000G tank and am trying to get as much
information in advance as possible. The current question is FILTERS???

Any suggestions? This will be a Fresh Water Game Fish Tank. Crappies,
Bluegills (brem), Trout, Bass and the like. I am currently running a
120G
and the filtering load is quite heavy. Someone mentioned a swimming
pool
(sand) filter, but I think it will plug up quickly.

Thanks for all your help.

JOhn :-)

A standard pool pump and sand filter should do 1000g easily, however for
this type of a system, you need to backwash it regularly. I have one
running an 850g pond of Koi & GF. Every morning it gets an 8 second
backwash. You cannot have live plants in the tank as this will clog your
intakes or pump screens too fast (though with your mix of fish, I don't
think you will be using live plants ;~). Consider pumping the water back
above the tank (a waterfall) for some extra oxygenation (I remember how
you liked to load up your tanks ;o)

NetMax

check over in rec.ponds, they've got huge filters, and great ideas.... I
was thinking something along the lines of a couple 150s, setup as wet/dry
filters, floss, bioballs, etc....


"(((\" John Lange" wrote in
message ...
HI

I am starting plans for a 1000G tank and am trying to get as much
information in advance as possible. The current question is FILTERS???

Any suggestions? This will be a Fresh Water Game Fish Tank. Crappies,
Bluegills (brem), Trout, Bass and the like. I am currently running a 120G
and the filtering load is quite heavy. Someone mentioned a swimming pool
(sand) filter, but I think it will plug up quickly.

Thanks for all your help.

JOhn :-)

If you end up going with a large volume container for your filter, take a
look at the poly "stock tanks" generally available from farm supply
businesses. I think 50 and 100gal are standard sizes. A 100 gal stock tank
should cost you less than $100, one person can lift it, and drag/bounce it
down stairs and such.

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check over in rec.ponds, they've got huge filters, and great ideas.... I
was thinking something along the lines of a couple 150s, setup as wet/dry
filters, floss, bioballs, etc....


"(((\" John Lange" wrote in
message ...
HI

I am starting plans for a 1000G tank and am trying to get as much
information in advance as possible. The current question is FILTERS???

Any suggestions? This will be a Fresh Water Game Fish Tank. Crappies,
Bluegills (brem), Trout, Bass and the like. I am currently running a
120G
and the filtering load is quite heavy. Someone mentioned a swimming
pool
(sand) filter, but I think it will plug up quickly.

Thanks for all your help.

JOhn :-)

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 03:22:59 +0000, (((\" John Lange wrote:

HI

I am starting plans for a 1000G tank and am trying to get as much
information in advance as possible. The current question is FILTERS???

Any suggestions? This will be a Fresh Water Game Fish Tank. Crappies,
Bluegills (brem), Trout, Bass and the like. I am currently running a 120G
and the filtering load is quite heavy. Someone mentioned a swimming pool
(sand) filter, but I think it will plug up quickly.

I would recommend a filteration system in two parts:

1. Remove the large particulate matter (big fish = larger solid waste)
2. Remove the nitrates (biological filter incorporating live plants
or algae, bacteria growing surfaces).

For particulate matter, I suggest a wet-dry filter in a sump tank.

For the nitrates, an Algae Scrubber works marvelously. It's has been
invented for use in Sal****er tanks, but, can be used with freshwater
for simply awesome results. They have been used for treating really
bad water (like farmwater and wastewater).

For commercial Algae Scrubbers, I can recommend contacting Inland Aquatics
at http://www.inlandaquatics.com who make a really snazzy one (but it's
not listed on their page, call them and speak to Morgan or Mike about Algae
Scrubbers). These guys are experts and will set you up with a filteration
system that would out of this world (but, for a price, of course).

Other examples:
http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archiv.../algae0700.htm
http://article.dphnet.com/cat-04/algeascrubber.shtml

Oh yeah, and keep these fish cool. For proper health, they may even
need a cooling cycle during winter where the tank temps go below
60F. I'd recommend against Trout, Sauger or Walleye unless you are
willing to invest in a chiller. Any kind of Sunfish (bream, 'gills,
Crappie) or Bass will be fine without a chiller.

Last, make sure you know your state's regulations about keeping
game fish in home aquaria. You may need to purchase them from a
hatchery to keep them in a tank. The fishes in your tank usually
count against your daily bag limit. And last, keep your fishing license
current at all times.

(No offense here, friend, just reminding you to stay legal).