Where to go from here?

I live in Cincinnati. Local Water 8.4ph 14gh 4kh aged from the tap.
I have two tanks that seem to be doing fine. ]

Tank 1 is 38 gal 7.3ph 3kh. It is planted, contains aged drift wood.
Filtered with two whisper power filters and a UGF powered by two
powerheads. Stocked with a 9" black ghost, 9" pleco, and two 3"
gouramis. I've had these fish about three or four years.

Tank2 is 29 gal 7.4ph 3 kh. It is planted, contains less aged drift
wood. Filtered with a whisper power filter and a large sponge with
powerhead. Stocked originally with three black mollies which have
turned into about 30 mollies and population rapidly rising!

For the past couple of months, I've been doing approx 20% water changes
twice per week. Previously, I'd been worried about the high PH of the
tap water so did fewer water changes. But I've read that fresh water
is better than perfect water. And the fish seem to love the water
changes.

What do you think of adding four Angel fish to Tank 1? The current
Tank 1 inhabitants, while very cool fish, are all shy or nocturnal.
I'd like some fish that would be easily seen in the day. However, I'm
concerned that in this relatively small space the fish would be crowded
by the time everyone keeps growing.

If Angels aren't a good choice, what else? I once tried tetras with
a black ghost based on a books statement about the ghost being so
peaceful. Ha ! Tetras came up dead or missing eye balls.

Replies would be appreciated.

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Why not? Angels, if not too small can usually take care of themselves but I
haven't had some of these fish you mention. Keep in mind Angels get LARGE
after a few years and when paired off - aggressive. I'm one of those people
who went through the aggressive fish stage and wont keep them any more.
Anything that would take a fishes eye out I would bring back to the store.

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IMO, both of your tanks are fully stocked and you risk the health of
what is probably a beautiful black ghost by adding new fish.

Leave well enough alone.

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Replies would be appreciated.

IMO, both of your tanks are fully stocked and you risk the health of
what is probably a beautiful black ghost by adding new fish.

Leave well enough alone.

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That's kind of what I thought. Which brings me to another idea. I've
been thinking of getting a 75 or 90 gal tank and then putting the black
ghost and pl*co in that with four Angels.

Even this idea gives me some concern. I have room for two decent sized
hiding places in the 38 gal. The ghost and the pl*co are both
territorial and fight over the best hiding place. The "peaceful" ghost
always wins those fights. Fortunately, they haven't seemed to hurt
each other.

I'm hoping that with a larger aquarium and a few more hiding places
everyone could just get along. On the other hand it might turn into a
gang fight with the addition of the Angels once they mature.

I've had aquariums on and off for years. But, this is the first time
I've had what I consider large fish...mainly because I've gotten better
at keeping them and they've had a chance to get large. Both the pl*co
and the ghost started out at about 2-3" in a 20 gal. Fish behaviour
really changes as they mature!

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I live in Cincinnati. Local Water 8.4ph 14gh 4kh aged from the tap.
I have two tanks that seem to be doing fine. ]

Tank 1 is 38 gal 7.3ph 3kh. It is planted, contains aged drift wood.
Filtered with two whisper power filters and a UGF powered by two
powerheads. Stocked with a 9" black ghost, 9" pleco, and two 3"
gouramis. I've had these fish about three or four years.

Tank2 is 29 gal 7.4ph 3 kh. It is planted, contains less aged drift
wood. Filtered with a whisper power filter and a large sponge with
powerhead. Stocked originally with three black mollies which have
turned into about 30 mollies and population rapidly rising!

For the past couple of months, I've been doing approx 20% water changes
twice per week. Previously, I'd been worried about the high PH of the
tap water so did fewer water changes. But I've read that fresh water
is better than perfect water. And the fish seem to love the water
changes.

What do you think of adding four Angel fish to Tank 1? The current
Tank 1 inhabitants, while very cool fish, are all shy or nocturnal.
I'd like some fish that would be easily seen in the day. However, I'm
concerned that in this relatively small space the fish would be crowded
by the time everyone keeps growing.

If Angels aren't a good choice, what else? I once tried tetras with
a black ghost based on a books statement about the ghost being so
peaceful. Ha ! Tetras came up dead or missing eye balls.

my experience with angels and (dwarf) gouramis was that they did not mix
well because of the semi-aggressive and territorial behavior both can
exhibit. i've had other problems with the gouramis as well with them
becoming overly reclusive when not comfortable with their surroundings or
other fish. from the sound of things and the level of your water changes i
think tank could support four angels untill they grow to full adult size and
pair off, in which case i'd recommend keeping just the mated pair. my
suggestion would be to move the gouramis over with the mollies to help,...
umm... *controll* their population. ;-) that would free up adding the
angels to your other tank w/o conflicts arrising. i'm not sure how well the
mollies and goirmies would mix however.

HTH.

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"Tedd Jacobs" wrote...

wrote...
I live in Cincinnati. Local Water 8.4ph 14gh 4kh aged from the tap.
I have two tanks that seem to be doing fine. ]

Tank 1 is 38 gal 7.3ph 3kh. It is planted, contains aged drift wood.
Filtered with two whisper power filters and a UGF powered by two
powerheads. Stocked with a 9" black ghost, 9" pleco, and two 3"
gouramis. I've had these fish about three or four years.

Tank2 is 29 gal 7.4ph 3 kh. It is planted, contains less aged drift
wood. Filtered with a whisper power filter and a large sponge with
powerhead. Stocked originally with three black mollies which have
turned into about 30 mollies and population rapidly rising!

For the past couple of months, I've been doing approx 20% water changes
twice per week. Previously, I'd been worried about the high PH of the
tap water so did fewer water changes. But I've read that fresh water
is better than perfect water. And the fish seem to love the water
changes.

What do you think of adding four Angel fish to Tank 1? The current
Tank 1 inhabitants, while very cool fish, are all shy or nocturnal.
I'd like some fish that would be easily seen in the day. However, I'm
concerned that in this relatively small space the fish would be crowded
by the time everyone keeps growing.

If Angels aren't a good choice, what else? I once tried tetras with
a black ghost based on a books statement about the ghost being so
peaceful. Ha ! Tetras came up dead or missing eye balls.

my experience with angels and (dwarf) gouramis was that they did not mix
well because of the semi-aggressive and territorial behavior both can
exhibit. i've had other problems with the gouramis as well with them
becoming overly reclusive when not comfortable with their surroundings or
other fish. from the sound of things and the level of your water changes
i think tank could support four angels untill they grow to full adult size
and pair off, in which case i'd recommend keeping just the mated pair. my
suggestion would be to move the gouramis over with the mollies to help,...
umm... *controll* their population. ;-) that would free up adding the
angels to your other tank w/o conflicts arrising. i'm not sure how well
the mollies and goirmies would mix however.

HTH.

one other thing, i dont know a thing about black ghost or how well they mix
with angels. this would be the first thing i'd check (even if it is the
last thing i forgot to mention). :-)

That's a good question. The ghost doesn't bother the gouramis unless
they try to get in his hiding place. This is probably why the
gouramis are so shy...they don't really have place of their own and I
don't have room for more than two hiding places in the 38 gal (the
pl*co takes the other hiding place). I think the situation would be
similar with the Angels. If they tried to mess with the ghost I think
it would be bad news for the Angels.

As I mentioned in another post, I'm thinking about getting a 75 or 90
gal and trying the set up in there along with the addition of more
hiding places.

wrote...
That's a good question. The ghost doesn't bother the gouramis unless
they try to get in his hiding place. This is probably why the
gouramis are so shy...they don't really have place of their own and I
don't have room for more than two hiding places in the 38 gal (the
pl*co takes the other hiding place). I think the situation would be
similar with the Angels. If they tried to mess with the ghost I think
it would be bad news for the Angels.

As I mentioned in another post, I'm thinking about getting a 75 or 90
gal and trying the set up in there along with the addition of more
hiding places.

angels, from my experience, are not as interested in hiding spaces the same
way pl*co's are; eg. they're into plants, not caves or coves. if you're
able- absolutely go with the bigger tank! i'm getting ready to start
stocking on my 75 gal. (US) and i am loving it! ;-) (i've become a fish
addict and it's all N*tM*x's fault).