Sick molly question

I've got a molly who has been gradually getting thin and he recently
started to shimmy. I was hoping he'd get better on his own since the
water is good in is tank, but I've become convinced that I need to
intervene. He eats quite a lot for being so thin so I'm figuring he's
got intestinal worms or parasites. I've looked for calamanus but I've
never seen anything at his vent. His poop is normal-looking.

I have him in a tub with about 0.5% salt, which seems to have helped -
probably less stress than freshwater. He isn't shimmying as much now
and heads for the surface hoping for food whenever I peer in. I had
planned to treat him with Jungle antiparasitic food, but he flatly
refuses to eat it.

Can salt alone treat internal parasites? I don't mind taking him all
the way to marine conditions for a while if it would work. I also have
Clout, Fluke-tabs, and metronidazole. Will any of those work in a bath?

Thanks for any help with this poor little fellow.

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I've got a molly who has been gradually getting thin and he recently
started to shimmy. I was hoping he'd get better on his own since the
water is good in is tank, but I've become convinced that I need to
intervene. He eats quite a lot for being so thin so I'm figuring he's got
intestinal worms or parasites. I've looked for calamanus but I've never
seen anything at his vent. His poop is normal-looking.

I have him in a tub with about 0.5% salt, which seems to have helped -
probably less stress than freshwater. He isn't shimmying as much now and
heads for the surface hoping for food whenever I peer in. I had planned
to treat him with Jungle antiparasitic food, but he flatly refuses to eat
it.

Can salt alone treat internal parasites? I don't mind taking him all the
way to marine conditions for a while if it would work. I also have Clout,
Fluke-tabs, and metronidazole. Will any of those work in a bath?

Thanks for any help with this poor little fellow.

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http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/disease.htm
I just gave this link to someone today, it is a great place for goldfish
symptoms and treatments, i found out a lot i did not know, check it out...it
might help. I was doing salt dips on a couple red cap goldfish i was having
problems with, 2 tsp per gl but dont do more then five minutes or less if
they have any problems, i do them every day around the same time. It also
helps when you are using any meds something to do with the slime coat.
Nik

Nikki wrote:
"Altum" wrote in message
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I've got a molly who has been gradually getting thin and he recently
started to shimmy. I was hoping he'd get better on his own since the
water is good in is tank, but I've become convinced that I need to
intervene. He eats quite a lot for being so thin so I'm figuring he's got
intestinal worms or parasites. I've looked for calamanus but I've never
seen anything at his vent. His poop is normal-looking.

I have him in a tub with about 0.5% salt, which seems to have helped -
probably less stress than freshwater. He isn't shimmying as much now and
heads for the surface hoping for food whenever I peer in. I had planned
to treat him with Jungle antiparasitic food, but he flatly refuses to eat
it.

Can salt alone treat internal parasites? I don't mind taking him all the
way to marine conditions for a while if it would work. I also have Clout,
Fluke-tabs, and metronidazole. Will any of those work in a bath?

Thanks for any help with this poor little fellow.

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Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com

http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/disease.htm
I just gave this link to someone today, it is a great place for goldfish
symptoms and treatments, i found out a lot i did not know, check it out...it
might help. I was doing salt dips on a couple red cap goldfish i was having
problems with, 2 tsp per gl but dont do more then five minutes or less if
they have any problems, i do them every day around the same time. It also
helps when you are using any meds something to do with the slime coat.
Nik

Thanks, Nik. Mollies are pretty different from goldfish, though. They
can live in anything from hard freshwater to full marine conditions.
One of the ways to help them is to put them in enough salt to completely
kill freshwater parasites and bacteria and let them live in the salt for
a couple of weeks. He's in 2 tbsp./gal right now and can go much
higher. Problem is, I don't know whether it works for internal problems
and I rather doubt it.

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Nikki wrote:
"Altum" wrote in message
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I've got a molly who has been gradually getting thin and he recently
started to shimmy. I was hoping he'd get better on his own since the
water is good in is tank, but I've become convinced that I need to
intervene. He eats quite a lot for being so thin so I'm figuring he's
got intestinal worms or parasites. I've looked for calamanus but I've
never seen anything at his vent. His poop is normal-looking.

I have him in a tub with about 0.5% salt, which seems to have helped -
probably less stress than freshwater. He isn't shimmying as much now
and heads for the surface hoping for food whenever I peer in. I had
planned to treat him with Jungle antiparasitic food, but he flatly
refuses to eat it.

Can salt alone treat internal parasites? I don't mind taking him all
the way to marine conditions for a while if it would work. I also have
Clout, Fluke-tabs, and metronidazole. Will any of those work in a bath?

Thanks for any help with this poor little fellow.

--
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Did you read the FAQ? http://faq.thekrib.com

http://weloveteaching.com/puregold/disease/disease.htm
I just gave this link to someone today, it is a great place for goldfish
symptoms and treatments, i found out a lot i did not know, check it
out...it might help. I was doing salt dips on a couple red cap goldfish i
was having problems with, 2 tsp per gl but dont do more then five minutes
or less if they have any problems, i do them every day around the same
time. It also helps when you are using any meds something to do with the
slime coat.
Nik

Thanks, Nik. Mollies are pretty different from goldfish, though. They
can live in anything from hard freshwater to full marine conditions. One
of the ways to help them is to put them in enough salt to completely kill
freshwater parasites and bacteria and let them live in the salt for a
couple of weeks. He's in 2 tbsp./gal right now and can go much higher.
Problem is, I don't know whether it works for internal problems and I
rather doubt it.

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Yeah, i think you might have to use some kind of med for that, the link i
posted has all kinds of symptoms and diseases, it also has a link for
parasites, it is aimed towards goldfish, but goldfish and other fish get a
lot of the same disease, its one of the better web pages i have found that
talks about disease and symptoms & cures, i figured you might be able to use
it for at least that, I never had mollies before, luke tried to get me to
buy some the other day i think balloon ones (if that is right) they are
pretty, and i thought i could put them with the fancy guppies, but i told
him to wait till i found out a little more about them, so he got another
goldfish.
Nik

Nikki wrote:

Yeah, i think you might have to use some kind of med for that, the link i
posted has all kinds of symptoms and diseases, it also has a link for
parasites, it is aimed towards goldfish, but goldfish and other fish get a
lot of the same disease, its one of the better web pages i have found that
talks about disease and symptoms & cures, i figured you might be able to use
it for at least that, I never had mollies before, luke tried to get me to
buy some the other day i think balloon ones (if that is right) they are
pretty, and i thought i could put them with the fancy guppies, but i told
him to wait till i found out a little more about them, so he got another
goldfish.
Nik

If you're interested in fish diseases, you might try getting a few
books. That website is pretty specific to pond goldfish and koi and is
missing a lot of diseases seen in tropicals. It also relies heavily on
antibiotics since you can inject them into koi and have less risk of
making resistant mycoplasma in your tank.

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Nikki wrote:

Yeah, i think you might have to use some kind of med for that, the link i
posted has all kinds of symptoms and diseases, it also has a link for
parasites, it is aimed towards goldfish, but goldfish and other fish get
a lot of the same disease, its one of the better web pages i have found
that talks about disease and symptoms & cures, i figured you might be
able to use it for at least that, I never had mollies before, luke tried
to get me to buy some the other day i think balloon ones (if that is
right) they are pretty, and i thought i could put them with the fancy
guppies, but i told him to wait till i found out a little more about
them, so he got another goldfish.
Nik

If you're interested in fish diseases, you might try getting a few books.
That website is pretty specific to pond goldfish and koi and is missing a
lot of diseases seen in tropicals. It also relies heavily on antibiotics
since you can inject them into koi and have less risk of making resistant
mycoplasma in your tank.

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Yeah I have a lot of info stored on my computer for my other fish and
diseases they can get, since I just started with goldfish (well Luke did,
I'm just stuck doing the hard work) I thought that was a pretty good sight.
Read a book, did I mention I have a 6 year old, and two others that are
almost teens, Luke see's me as much as pick a book up he needs me ASAP,
unless of course its Harry potter, I just read the new one to him and he
rather enjoyed that. thats how i read now, eight find some thing he likes or
stay up all night....
nik

Altum wrote:
I've got a molly who has been gradually getting thin and he recently
started to shimmy. I was hoping he'd get better on his own since the
water is good in is tank, but I've become convinced that I need to
intervene. He eats quite a lot for being so thin so I'm figuring he's
got intestinal worms or parasites. I've looked for calamanus but I've
never seen anything at his vent. His poop is normal-looking.

I have him in a tub with about 0.5% salt, which seems to have helped -
probably less stress than freshwater. He isn't shimmying as much now
and heads for the surface hoping for food whenever I peer in. I had
planned to treat him with Jungle antiparasitic food, but he flatly
refuses to eat it.

Can salt alone treat internal parasites? I don't mind taking him all
the way to marine conditions for a while if it would work. I also have
Clout, Fluke-tabs, and metronidazole. Will any of those work in a bath?

Thanks for any help with this poor little fellow.


From what you say he seems to be improving in the salt solution.
Personally, if he continues to get better I would not intervene with any
additional treatment....

Gill