Fish tank in my Bedroom , I have a age old problem , Advice please.

Advice please i have a bit of a situation , i have just put a 2ft tank in
the bedroom ,i've cycled the tank and have filled the tank with a 50/50 mix
of clean and my other fish tank water , my filter is brand .

I have one fish in there currently , but will be stocking this tank with
around 12 -14 small fish , neons , guppies , a couple of plattys and i do
like the tank in the bedroom , but i imagine you've guessed my problem ,
although the filte is not loud or does not seem to be during the day , when
it comes to the dead of night , i can hear it , hummmmmmmmmmming away in the
back ground , i can see it becoming a bugbear .........so i have too options
, i have a nice little suitable space downstairs in my front room , where i
can put the tank .

Or would it be possible to put the filter on a timer so that when the light
goes off on the tank the filter turns off , this i would happen during say
12am - 7am , for 7 hours, but i'm unsure if this is fair or suitable for the
fish ,i've been round the houses and put some filter sponge between the
filter and the glass on the tank , that did cut the nose down a little , but
you guys i'm sure know , that at the dead of night , if you hear a pin drop
you can kinda hear it..........

I hope this will not cause a stir of ppl shouting at me for even making the
sugguestion , my big tank is in my 2nd bedroom and of course the pump is on
24/7 , but i can't hear that pump in my sleeping bedroom.

Sooooooo guys do i have two options , both been okay and fine for the fish ,
or is it a very bad idea and i should simply move the tank downstairs , if i
can't live/sleep with the hummmmmmmming noise from the filter.

Advice welcome.

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On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 02:10:53 GMT, "Andy Peteman"
wrote:
Advice please i have a bit of a situation , i have just put a 2ft tank in
the bedroom ,i've cycled the tank and have filled the tank with a 50/50 mix
of clean and my other fish tank water , my filter is brand .

I have one fish in there currently , but will be stocking this tank with
around 12 -14 small fish , neons , guppies , a couple of plattys and i do
like the tank in the bedroom , but i imagine you've guessed my problem ,
although the filte is not loud or does not seem to be during the day , when
it comes to the dead of night , i can hear it , hummmmmmmmmmming away in the
back ground , i can see it becoming a bugbear .........so i have too options
, i have a nice little suitable space downstairs in my front room , where i
can put the tank .

Or would it be possible to put the filter on a timer so that when the light
goes off on the tank the filter turns off , this i would happen during say
12am - 7am , for 7 hours, but i'm unsure if this is fair or suitable for the
fish ,i've been round the houses and put some filter sponge between the
filter and the glass on the tank , that did cut the nose down a little , but
you guys i'm sure know , that at the dead of night , if you hear a pin drop
you can kinda hear it..........

I hope this will not cause a stir of ppl shouting at me for even making the
sugguestion , my big tank is in my 2nd bedroom and of course the pump is on
24/7 , but i can't hear that pump in my sleeping bedroom.

Sooooooo guys do i have two options , both been okay and fine for the fish ,
or is it a very bad idea and i should simply move the tank downstairs , if i
can't live/sleep with the hummmmmmmming noise from the filter.

Advice welcome.

"Andy Peteman" wrote in message
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but i imagine you've guessed my problem ,
although the filte is not loud or does not seem to be during the day ,
when it comes to the dead of night , i can hear it , hummmmmmmmmmming away
in the back ground , i can see it becoming a bugbear .

And the prime reason I never had a tank in my bedroom. :-) I have some
Aquaclears that are almost dead silent unless you're real close to them.

.........so i have too options
, i have a nice little suitable space downstairs in my front room , where
i can put the tank .

Or would it be possible to put the filter on a timer so that when the
light goes off on the tank the filter turns off , this i would happen
during say 12am - 7am , for 7 hours, but i'm unsure if this is fair or
suitable for the fish ,

I would think the bacteria would start to die that many hours without a
fresh flow of oxygen rich water. I personally wouldn't do that.

i've been round the houses and put some filter sponge between the
filter and the glass on the tank , that did cut the nose down a little ,
but you guys i'm sure know , that at the dead of night , if you hear a
pin drop you can kinda hear it..........

I hope this will not cause a stir of ppl shouting at me for even making
the sugguestion , my big tank is in my 2nd bedroom and of course the pump
is on 24/7 , but i can't hear that pump in my sleeping bedroom.

Do you mean air-pump? Most of those I had were a bit too noisy for a
bedroom.

Sooooooo guys do i have two options , both been okay and fine for the fish
, or is it a very bad idea and i should simply move the tank downstairs ,
if i can't live/sleep with the hummmmmmmming noise from the filter.

If I were you I would either try and find an almost silent HOB filter or
move the tank out of the bedroom.
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I would think the bacteria would start to die that many hours without
a fresh flow of oxygen rich water. I personally wouldn't do that.

The bacteria certainly wouldn't die. Nitrosomonas and nitrobacter bacteria
are a lot more resilient than people give credit.

What would happen is that the lack of circulation would prevent the
bacteria from doing its job properly. The low levels of dissolved O2
combined with the high concentration of ammonia present by morning would
mean it would take time for it to be processed out of the system once the
filter is switched back on.

The pH would being to climb the moment circulation resumes as all the
built-up CO2 is forced out of the system, making the lingering ammonia all
the more dangerous.

"dc" wrote in message
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"Koi-Lo" Reply to NG Only wrote in
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I would think the bacteria would start to die that many hours without
a fresh flow of oxygen rich water. I personally wouldn't do that.

The bacteria certainly wouldn't die. Nitrosomonas and nitrobacter bacteria
are a lot more resilient than people give credit.

This may be true but many filters, like the ACs have a deep 2 sponge well
that would quickly go anaerobic under the sponges after several hours.
Perhaps the shape and depth of the filtering material would make the
difference. I know when we lose power at night and I get them started again
come morning, I can sometimes smell a funky odor they don't emit when not
stopped for who knows how many hours. For some reason ACs don't always start
by themselves when the power comes back on.

What would happen is that the lack of circulation would prevent the
bacteria from doing its job properly. The low levels of dissolved O2
combined with the high concentration of ammonia present by morning would
mean it would take time for it to be processed out of the system once the
filter is switched back on.

That doesn't sound too good..... :-(

The pH would being to climb the moment circulation resumes as all the
built-up CO2 is forced out of the system, making the lingering ammonia all
the more dangerous.

It's just not a good idea to shut them off.
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"dc" wrote in message
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The bacteria certainly wouldn't die. Nitrosomonas and nitrobacter
bacteria are a lot more resilient than people give credit.

This may be true but many filters, like the ACs have a deep 2 sponge
well that would quickly go anaerobic under the sponges after several

Hypoxia won't directly kill off aerobic bacteria, it simply prevents them
from obtaining food through nitrification. The hypoxic conditions need to
persist for an extended period of time for the nitrifying bacteria to begin
to die off rapidly due to, essentially, starvation.


them started again come morning, I can sometimes smell a funky odor
they don't emit when not stopped for who knows how many hours. For

The odor you are smelling could be a lot of things, the least of which are
dead nitrosomonos. My first guess would be sulfuric gasses produced by
anaerobic bacteria.


some reason ACs don't always start by themselves when the power comes
back on.

This is generally due to some force of resistance on the impeller, usually
friction between the impeller and the impeller shaft or the impeller blades
and the plastic guard which sits above it. If you gently touch the
impeller bade with a plyable object that won't do damage to the plastic
blades, it should spring to life.

"dc" wrote in message
. ..

This is generally due to some force of resistance on the impeller, usually
friction between the impeller and the impeller shaft or the impeller
blades
and the plastic guard which sits above it. If you gently touch the
impeller bade with a plyable object that won't do damage to the plastic
blades, it should spring to life.
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That's exactly what I do! :-) I move the intake over and give the impeller
blades a little nudge with a piece of plastic from a Q-tip. I have noticed
if there's a lot of slime on the impeller and impeller walls they wont start
themselves either.
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"Andy Peteman" wrote in message
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I have one fish in there currently , but will be stocking this tank with
around 12 -14 small fish , neons , guppies , a couple of plattys and i do
like the tank in the bedroom , but i imagine you've guessed my problem ,
although the filte is not loud or does not seem to be during the day ,
when it comes to the dead of night , i can hear it , hummmmmmmmmmming away
in the back ground , i can see it becoming a bugbear .........so i have
too options , i have a nice little suitable space downstairs in my front
room , where i can put the tank .

Advice welcome.

You don't mention what kind of filter you have? Is it a HOT, Canister or
internal filter? Is the noise caused by the water returning to the tank (HOT
or Canister) or the filter itself. If it's water causing the noise, try
adjusting the return flow. If the noise is caused by the filter itself, try
changing filters. I've never had a bedroom tank, so I don't know if the
noise would bother me or not. Constant noises are much easier to get used to
than intermittent noises. It might also be possible to block the noise out
with some other white noise.

If cash is not a problem, I might go for an external filter (Canister) and
put it in a closet, noise proof box or even another room if possible.
Mother-in-Law's room comes to mind.

Andy Peteman wrote:
Advice please i have a bit of a situation , i have just put a 2ft tank in
the bedroom ,i've cycled the tank and have filled the tank with a 50/50 mix
of clean and my other fish tank water , my filter is brand .

I have one fish in there currently , but will be stocking this tank with
around 12 -14 small fish , neons , guppies , a couple of plattys and i do
like the tank in the bedroom , but i imagine you've guessed my problem ,
although the filte is not loud or does not seem to be during the day , when
it comes to the dead of night , i can hear it , hummmmmmmmmmming away in the
back ground , i can see it becoming a bugbear .........so i have too options
, i have a nice little suitable space downstairs in my front room , where i
can put the tank .

Or would it be possible to put the filter on a timer so that when the light
goes off on the tank the filter turns off , this i would happen during say
12am - 7am , for 7 hours, but i'm unsure if this is fair or suitable for the
fish ,i've been round the houses and put some filter sponge between the
filter and the glass on the tank , that did cut the nose down a little , but
you guys i'm sure know , that at the dead of night , if you hear a pin drop
you can kinda hear it..........

I hope this will not cause a stir of ppl shouting at me for even making the
sugguestion , my big tank is in my 2nd bedroom and of course the pump is on
24/7 , but i can't hear that pump in my sleeping bedroom.

Sooooooo guys do i have two options , both been okay and fine for the fish ,
or is it a very bad idea and i should simply move the tank downstairs , if i
can't live/sleep with the hummmmmmmming noise from the filter.

Advice welcome.

Are you talking about the airpump or the filter? Use a filter that
provides surface turbulence like a Whisper or an Aquaclear and you don't
need an airstone. You can't turn a filter off for seven hours every
night. The helpful bacteria in it would die off without oxygen - I
doubt the tank would even cycle properly.

Consider buying an internal filter. They're extremely quiet. Canister
filters are almost as quiet, although bubbles stuck in the impeller
sometimes make noise.

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