? baby koi

I have been reading about a experimental koi spawning on the british koi
clubs website.
but his experiment was totaly controled

has anyone raised baby koi in an outdoor kiddie pool and if so how much
growth did the fry show and how fast

I dont know whether t leave them in the kp or buy a small aquarium and
move them inside
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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

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http://www.fuerjefe.com

Hi, John: Your decision might also depend on how MANY fry we're talking
about. I harvested some eggs last spring (June) out of my pond, brought
them in the house to a bucket of pond water and a light to keep them warm,
and when they hatched I moved them into an awaiting fishtank with
filtration, aeration, etc. The plan was to put them in the pond before
winter if they were big enough, or keep them in the house in the tank
through the winter if I didn't think they were big enough to survive the
winter outdoors. Unfortunately, I didn't get to make that choice - by
September the 20 fry I had in the 20 gallon tank were starting to die off -
the babies were getting too big too fast and the water was killing them off,
too many growing fry in a 20 gallon tank. I tried frantically to keep up
with the water, but after losing my fifth fish, I decided the remaining 15
were going out into the pond, big enough or not. They were certainly dying
inside, they had a better chance outside. Luckily for me, they all survived
the winter in the pond. They were about 2" long when I put them outside in
September.
Sue
"john rutz" wrote in message
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I have been reading about a experimental koi spawning on the british koi
clubs website.
but his experiment was totaly controled

has anyone raised baby koi in an outdoor kiddie pool and if so how much
growth did the fry show and how fast

I dont know whether t leave them in the kp or buy a small aquarium and
move them inside
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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

John,

I move my tropicals in in the winter. If I don't build up the gravel bed
filter by gradually introducing the fish, the bacteria are not up to the
chore and I get an ammonia spike and dead fish. Koi produce more waste, but
the principle is the same...lots of bacterial surface allows ok water.

I use only subsand filters, 1 1/2" of gravel and power heads on my 80 gal
Oscar tank. It does just fine with two full-sized oscars (14" and 12"
oscars). The trick there is that the h20 cycles every 20 minutes.

They do fine with a quarterly change of 1/3 of the water and vacuum picking
up of the muck (small submersible pump pulling muck into an 8" aquarium
filter sponge on its way to the pump). I take out the rocks, cut off the
power heads, stir the gravel and heap it at one end. The muck settles all
over, but especially at the low end. Then I use an aquarium vacuum run into
the scution end of the pond pump to grab the muck. As I think about it, I
could take a digital of the apparatus and send it to you.

Net: Koi should do fine with sufficient filtration...especially a really
good set of bacteria.

Good luck

J

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"john rutz" wrote in message
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I have been reading about a experimental koi spawning on the british koi
clubs website.
but his experiment was totaly controled

has anyone raised baby koi in an outdoor kiddie pool and if so how much
growth did the fry show and how fast

I dont know whether t leave them in the kp or buy a small aquarium and
move them inside
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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

John,\

I have a 150 gallon stock tank that I used last year and am using again this
year. It has the strawberry jar trickle filter for filtration. My spawn
this year was the first week in June. The fry vary from around 1/2 inch to
almost 2 inches. Last year I did my cull in late September, with a few fish
put into the main ponds for the winter (heated), but most went to the LFS.
I think some of them were about 3 inches, but some were still around 1 1/2
inches. I feed the fry about 4 or 5 times a day with flake food because the
stock tank does not have that good carpet of algae that they would feed on
in the pond.
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http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"john rutz" wrote in message
...
I have been reading about a experimental koi spawning on the british koi
clubs website.
but his experiment was totaly controled

has anyone raised baby koi in an outdoor kiddie pool and if so how much
growth did the fry show and how fast

I dont know whether t leave them in the kp or buy a small aquarium and
move them inside
--





John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

RichToyBox wrote:
John,\

I have a 150 gallon stock tank that I used last year and am using again this
year. It has the strawberry jar trickle filter for filtration. My spawn
this year was the first week in June. The fry vary from around 1/2 inch to
almost 2 inches. Last year I did my cull in late September, with a few fish
put into the main ponds for the winter (heated), but most went to the LFS.
I think some of them were about 3 inches, but some were still around 1 1/2
inches. I feed the fry about 4 or 5 times a day with flake food because the
stock tank does not have that good carpet of algae that they would feed on
in the pond.


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thanks Rich
Im going to pick up a small aquarium tomorrow and move them in wher i
can feed mmultiple times a dayu and monitor the water better
the spawn was about a week ago so they are still rather tiny I just
hope I can move them without hruting any :-)




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

john rutz wrote:


RichToyBox wrote:

John,\


stock tank does not have that good carpet of algae that they would
feed on
in the pond.



I have been watching the 9 or so fry in the kiddie pool for a week now,
went out this am and saw 20+ in the Koi pond,
12 or so in the veggie filter (hard to see whats in there with all the
plants, duckweed and algae its begining to look like I have had a real
good spawn and as two of the females and one of the males were
buterflys I just might have something really nice going here guess I
will know for sure what I have and what to cull come next spring when
they are big enough to decide which are keepers and which ar culls the
Old Fartt is happy today VVVBG

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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

John ... I am sooo happy for you!! You deserve a break ...
Looks like the fish obliged ;-)

Nedra
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john rutz wrote:


RichToyBox wrote:

John,\


stock tank does not have that good carpet of algae that they would
feed on
in the pond.



I have been watching the 9 or so fry in the kiddie pool for a week now,
went out this am and saw 20+ in the Koi pond,
12 or so in the veggie filter (hard to see whats in there with all the
plants, duckweed and algae its begining to look like I have had a real
good spawn and as two of the females and one of the males were
buterflys I just might have something really nice going here guess I
will know for sure what I have and what to cull come next spring when
they are big enough to decide which are keepers and which ar culls the
Old Fartt is happy today VVVBG

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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com