What is a real atheist?

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WHAT makes a Christian really a Christian? Should not his morals
play
a large part in this, and should not his moral standards be higher
than those of non-Christians? If not, then in what way could the
Christian believe that his religion is superior to the non-Christian
religions?

Speaking of "Moral"

Apart from the fact that religious moral has only one purpose, which is
"group control", the general public has a very strange
interpretation of the concept of morality. The dictionary definition
reflects this confusion:
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1. Of or concerned with the judgment of the goodness or badness of
human action and character: moral scrutiny; a moral quandary.
2. Teaching or exhibiting goodness or correctness of character and
behavior: a moral lesson.
3. Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior;
virtuous: a moral life.
4. Arising from conscience or the sense of right and wrong: a moral
obligation.
5. Having psychological rather than physical or tangible effects: a
moral victory; moral support.
6. Based on strong likelihood or firm conviction, rather than on the
actual evidence: a moral certainty.
n.
1. The lesson or principle contained in or taught by a fable, a story,
or an event.
2. A concisely express
ed precept or general truth; a maxim.
3. morals Rules or habits of conduct, especially of sexual conduct,
with reference to standards of right and wrong: a person of loose
morals; a decline in the public morals.
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Interesting!
Habits, goodness, truth and maxims based on conviction rather than on
actual evidence?

This is how contemporary moral works in the practice:

Everyone seem to agree that moral means rules of conduct. Fine!
Who determines these rules?
Most decide that anything one dislikes, distrusts or is unable to cope
with is very annoying and is likely to be amoral.
After sorting dislikes and prejudices one is ready then to start to
discriminate against everyone who does not agree. Sooner than later one
finds a group of people who for reasons of their own have the same set
of attitudes. Of course there must be some plausible authority found or
created to legalise and enforce such moral constructs. If one can not
find a religious group where conveniently a god provides that authority
than joining a political party will do just as well.
The best option is to join a political party that integrates religion.
Quite powerful and satisfies most moralist, see for example USA, Israel
and Iran.
One can refine the above formula: modern media is extremely efficient
to propagate morality. Control the media and you can enforce anything
you wish. Hitler knew that, Mr G. W. knows that and a well known
powerful media baron practices that.
Discrimination, witch hunt, imprisonment, torture, execution and plain
murder can be legal if sanctioned by moral rules.
Moral must triumph!
Torch the local abortion clinic!
Lynch your "pedophile" neighbour! No evidence? Who cares, he must be
one! You have never liked his face in the first place!
Innocent?
Oops!
At least he has died for a good moral cause!

The subject suggests the question 'What is a "false" atheist?'

Virgil wrote:
The subject suggests the question 'What is a "false" atheist?'

Someone that believes in or advocates something which is equivalent to
a theism, but doesn't acknowledge that it is essentially a theism.

--
Ron

Ron Peterson wrote:

Virgil wrote:
The subject suggests the question 'What is a "false" atheist?'

Someone that believes in or advocates something which is equivalent to
a theism,.....

.......ROFL

but doesn't acknowledge that it is essentially a theism.

--
Ron

"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism
is human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is
not an old religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is
not, and never has been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is
magnificent in its simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity
in a world of madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]

I am a Reel Atheist. And I agree I have no Morals. I don't need any.
I can do whatever I want, whenever I want.

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CR....

Us white people were the first illegal imigrants... don't tell the natives.


Ron Peterson wrote:
Virgil wrote:

The subject suggests the question 'What is a "false" atheist?'


Someone that believes in or advocates something which is equivalent to
a theism, but doesn't acknowledge that it is essentially a theism.

Reel Mckoi wrote:

I am a Reel Atheist. And I agree I have no Morals. I don't need any.
I can do whatever I want, whenever I want.

You sick fool. 1.1 billlion non believing folks in China, is that what you
label them all with?

You think because someone is not stupid enough to grovel to imagined deity he
or she has no morals?

What lunacy. Take a long careful look at Emmett's last line below, you might,
just might, learn something.

bob
Humanist Brit.
Hong Kong

"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an
old religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]





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CR....

Us white people were the first illegal imigrants... don't tell the natives.

Ron Peterson wrote:
Virgil wrote:

The subject suggests the question 'What is a "false" atheist?'


Someone that believes in or advocates something which is equivalent to
a theism, but doesn't acknowledge that it is essentially a theism.

On 26 May 2005 23:03:03 -0500, bob young
wrote:



Reel Mckoi wrote:

I am a Reel Atheist. And I agree I have no Morals. I don't need any.
I can do whatever I want, whenever I want.

You sick fool. 1.1 billlion non believing folks in China, is that what you
label them all with?

You think because someone is not stupid enough to grovel to imagined deity he
or she has no morals?

What lunacy. Take a long careful look at Emmett's last line below, you might,
just might, learn something.

If Jabbers ever learned anything, that truly would be a miracle.


bob
Humanist Brit.
Hong Kong

"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not an
old religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is magnificent in
its simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]





------------
CR....

Us white people were the first illegal imigrants... don't tell the natives.

Ron Peterson wrote:
Virgil wrote:

The subject suggests the question 'What is a "false" atheist?'


Someone that believes in or advocates something which is equivalent to
a theism, but doesn't acknowledge that it is essentially a theism.

Virgil wrote:

The subject suggests the question 'What is a "false" atheist?'

Someone who believes in an imaginary god?