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I am having some problems maintaining calcium and alkalinity.
Lately I have been testing several times a night, in batches of 3. Three in regular res mode, by following the posted directions. And three in what I call super-res, by doubling the components. Calcium won't go over 375 ppm (confirmed with 2 seperate test kits both with standards) But it is constant there. Doesn't change from day to day. (even running the tests in super sensitivity mode.) Alk runs high from 3.2 to 5.2 meq/L. I dose with 2 part B-Ionic and/or Kalkwasser. When I use the 2 part, alot of times I end up just dosing part 2 (calcium component) so not to over-do the alk. When I am dosing Kalk, I set it up on a drip, totals about 1 gallon per day. (Which just so happens to be about what i loose in evap) I make the Kalk up in 2 gallon batches. When I dose B-Ionic I end up dosing about 50 ml of part two in a 46 gallon bowfront. This amount seems enough to maintain the calc, but not raise it. I would like to get calc to 400 to 425. Any advice? Also, I would like to get the Alk down. Not dosing for a while works but I was wondering if there is a method that can be used to raise it, besides water changes. (do enough of them @ 20% each month) Best regards, Rick System 46 Gallon Bow Front (Reef) 9 months old 10 Gallon Sump Prizm Skimmer Wet/Dry Trickle Filter with Hangon Prefilter/Overflow (it works great, thanks for asking) Carbon in drip pan. 1/3 replaced bi-weekly Minimal Bio-Load Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calc 375 Alk 5.14 (meq/L) Iodine .06 ppm 60 lbs Aragonite Live Sand 45 lbs Live Rock Dosing B-Ionic - Daily as per requirements (usually 50 ml part 2) Iodine - Daily .5 ml Trace Elements - Weekly 3 ml Kalkwasser / Freshwater - Daily about a gallon (when Kalk its by drip) |
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Ooops sorry, forgot the other issue which i think is related. pH has trouble
going over 8.1. I want this to be 8.3 but no dice with the Alk issues. I had hoped that with constant dosing and monitoring that it would slowly but surely settle out higher. But is has been 8.1 since the day I set it up. Inhabitants dont seem to mind. Sabae anemone is always eager to display himself, valintini puffer wont stop playing in the PH streams and the maroon clown is forever cleaning house for the anemone. -Rick "Rick" wrote in message news ![]() I am having some problems maintaining calcium and alkalinity. Lately I have been testing several times a night, in batches of 3. Three in regular res mode, by following the posted directions. And three in what I call super-res, by doubling the components. Calcium won't go over 375 ppm (confirmed with 2 seperate test kits both with standards) But it is constant there. Doesn't change from day to day. (even running the tests in super sensitivity mode.) Alk runs high from 3.2 to 5.2 meq/L. I dose with 2 part B-Ionic and/or Kalkwasser. When I use the 2 part, alot of times I end up just dosing part 2 (calcium component) so not to over-do the alk. When I am dosing Kalk, I set it up on a drip, totals about 1 gallon per day. (Which just so happens to be about what i loose in evap) I make the Kalk up in 2 gallon batches. When I dose B-Ionic I end up dosing about 50 ml of part two in a 46 gallon bowfront. This amount seems enough to maintain the calc, but not raise it. I would like to get calc to 400 to 425. Any advice? Also, I would like to get the Alk down. Not dosing for a while works but I was wondering if there is a method that can be used to raise it, besides water changes. (do enough of them @ 20% each month) Best regards, Rick System 46 Gallon Bow Front (Reef) 9 months old 10 Gallon Sump Prizm Skimmer Wet/Dry Trickle Filter with Hangon Prefilter/Overflow (it works great, thanks for asking) Carbon in drip pan. 1/3 replaced bi-weekly Minimal Bio-Load Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calc 375 Alk 5.14 (meq/L) Iodine .06 ppm 60 lbs Aragonite Live Sand 45 lbs Live Rock Dosing B-Ionic - Daily as per requirements (usually 50 ml part 2) Iodine - Daily .5 ml Trace Elements - Weekly 3 ml Kalkwasser / Freshwater - Daily about a gallon (when Kalk its by drip) |
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Rick, I dose 30ml of B-Ionic daily in my 55g and my Ca and Alk are both high.
460 Ca and 13 dKH last time I tested. pH ranges between 8.1 and 8.38 daily. When you dose, do you pour it in very slowly, making sure it dissipates without turning to flakes? If it does, the dose was just wasted. Marc Rick wrote: Ooops sorry, forgot the other issue which i think is related. pH has trouble going over 8.1. I want this to be 8.3 but no dice with the Alk issues. I had hoped that with constant dosing and monitoring that it would slowly but surely settle out higher. But is has been 8.1 since the day I set it up. Inhabitants dont seem to mind. Sabae anemone is always eager to display himself, valintini puffer wont stop playing in the PH streams and the maroon clown is forever cleaning house for the anemone. -Rick "Rick" wrote in message news ![]() I am having some problems maintaining calcium and alkalinity. Lately I have been testing several times a night, in batches of 3. Three in regular res mode, by following the posted directions. And three in what I call super-res, by doubling the components. Calcium won't go over 375 ppm (confirmed with 2 seperate test kits both with standards) But it is constant there. Doesn't change from day to day. (even running the tests in super sensitivity mode.) Alk runs high from 3.2 to 5.2 meq/L. I dose with 2 part B-Ionic and/or Kalkwasser. When I use the 2 part, alot of times I end up just dosing part 2 (calcium component) so not to over-do the alk. When I am dosing Kalk, I set it up on a drip, totals about 1 gallon per day. (Which just so happens to be about what i loose in evap) I make the Kalk up in 2 gallon batches. When I dose B-Ionic I end up dosing about 50 ml of part two in a 46 gallon bowfront. This amount seems enough to maintain the calc, but not raise it. I would like to get calc to 400 to 425. Any advice? Also, I would like to get the Alk down. Not dosing for a while works but I was wondering if there is a method that can be used to raise it, besides water changes. (do enough of them @ 20% each month) Best regards, Rick System 46 Gallon Bow Front (Reef) 9 months old 10 Gallon Sump Prizm Skimmer Wet/Dry Trickle Filter with Hangon Prefilter/Overflow (it works great, thanks for asking) Carbon in drip pan. 1/3 replaced bi-weekly Minimal Bio-Load Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calc 375 Alk 5.14 (meq/L) Iodine .06 ppm 60 lbs Aragonite Live Sand 45 lbs Live Rock Dosing B-Ionic - Daily as per requirements (usually 50 ml part 2) Iodine - Daily .5 ml Trace Elements - Weekly 3 ml Kalkwasser / Freshwater - Daily about a gallon (when Kalk its by drip) -- Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com |
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Marc,
When I dose part 1 it does get cloudy and I have noticed flakes with that. I figure that is was carbonate precipitation. Which I don't like one bit. I will dose slower with that in mind. When I dose the calcium part, part 2, in do it in 5 - 10 ml batches. It does not cloud nor flake. When I make up Kalkwasser, it flakes a lot in the container. -Rick "Marc Levenson" wrote in message ... Rick, I dose 30ml of B-Ionic daily in my 55g and my Ca and Alk are both high. 460 Ca and 13 dKH last time I tested. pH ranges between 8.1 and 8.38 daily. When you dose, do you pour it in very slowly, making sure it dissipates without turning to flakes? If it does, the dose was just wasted. Marc Rick wrote: Ooops sorry, forgot the other issue which i think is related. pH has trouble going over 8.1. I want this to be 8.3 but no dice with the Alk issues. I had hoped that with constant dosing and monitoring that it would slowly but surely settle out higher. But is has been 8.1 since the day I set it up. Inhabitants dont seem to mind. Sabae anemone is always eager to display himself, valintini puffer wont stop playing in the PH streams and the maroon clown is forever cleaning house for the anemone. -Rick "Rick" wrote in message news ![]() I am having some problems maintaining calcium and alkalinity. Lately I have been testing several times a night, in batches of 3. Three in regular res mode, by following the posted directions. And three in what I call super-res, by doubling the components. Calcium won't go over 375 ppm (confirmed with 2 seperate test kits both with standards) But it is constant there. Doesn't change from day to day. (even running the tests in super sensitivity mode.) Alk runs high from 3.2 to 5.2 meq/L. I dose with 2 part B-Ionic and/or Kalkwasser. When I use the 2 part, alot of times I end up just dosing part 2 (calcium component) so not to over-do the alk. When I am dosing Kalk, I set it up on a drip, totals about 1 gallon per day. (Which just so happens to be about what i loose in evap) I make the Kalk up in 2 gallon batches. When I dose B-Ionic I end up dosing about 50 ml of part two in a 46 gallon bowfront. This amount seems enough to maintain the calc, but not raise it. I would like to get calc to 400 to 425. Any advice? Also, I would like to get the Alk down. Not dosing for a while works but I was wondering if there is a method that can be used to raise it, besides water changes. (do enough of them @ 20% each month) Best regards, Rick System 46 Gallon Bow Front (Reef) 9 months old 10 Gallon Sump Prizm Skimmer Wet/Dry Trickle Filter with Hangon Prefilter/Overflow (it works great, thanks for asking) Carbon in drip pan. 1/3 replaced bi-weekly Minimal Bio-Load Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calc 375 Alk 5.14 (meq/L) Iodine .06 ppm 60 lbs Aragonite Live Sand 45 lbs Live Rock Dosing B-Ionic - Daily as per requirements (usually 50 ml part 2) Iodine - Daily .5 ml Trace Elements - Weekly 3 ml Kalkwasser / Freshwater - Daily about a gallon (when Kalk its by drip) -- Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com |
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Try adding it a tiny bit at a time, over 30 seconds -- per part.
Last night, I poured in the 15ml in my 29g all at once across the full length of the tank. Grabbed my flashlight to see what occured, and I had snow. In other words, precipitation and essentially useless. You don't want it to flake because then it basically did nothing. I added another 15 ml slowly and need to test my water today. grin Marc Rick wrote: Marc, When I dose part 1 it does get cloudy and I have noticed flakes with that. I figure that is was carbonate precipitation. Which I don't like one bit. I will dose slower with that in mind. When I dose the calcium part, part 2, in do it in 5 - 10 ml batches. It does not cloud nor flake. When I make up Kalkwasser, it flakes a lot in the container. -Rick "Marc Levenson" wrote in message ... Rick, I dose 30ml of B-Ionic daily in my 55g and my Ca and Alk are both high. 460 Ca and 13 dKH last time I tested. pH ranges between 8.1 and 8.38 daily. When you dose, do you pour it in very slowly, making sure it dissipates without turning to flakes? If it does, the dose was just wasted. Marc Rick wrote: Ooops sorry, forgot the other issue which i think is related. pH has trouble going over 8.1. I want this to be 8.3 but no dice with the Alk issues. I had hoped that with constant dosing and monitoring that it would slowly but surely settle out higher. But is has been 8.1 since the day I set it up. Inhabitants dont seem to mind. Sabae anemone is always eager to display himself, valintini puffer wont stop playing in the PH streams and the maroon clown is forever cleaning house for the anemone. -Rick "Rick" wrote in message news ![]() Lately I have been testing several times a night, in batches of 3. Three in regular res mode, by following the posted directions. And three in what I call super-res, by doubling the components. Calcium won't go over 375 ppm (confirmed with 2 seperate test kits both with standards) But it is constant there. Doesn't change from day to day. (even running the tests in super sensitivity mode.) Alk runs high from 3.2 to 5.2 meq/L. I dose with 2 part B-Ionic and/or Kalkwasser. When I use the 2 part, alot of times I end up just dosing part 2 (calcium component) so not to over-do the alk. When I am dosing Kalk, I set it up on a drip, totals about 1 gallon per day. (Which just so happens to be about what i loose in evap) I make the Kalk up in 2 gallon batches. When I dose B-Ionic I end up dosing about 50 ml of part two in a 46 gallon bowfront. This amount seems enough to maintain the calc, but not raise it. I would like to get calc to 400 to 425. Any advice? Also, I would like to get the Alk down. Not dosing for a while works but I was wondering if there is a method that can be used to raise it, besides water changes. (do enough of them @ 20% each month) Best regards, Rick System 46 Gallon Bow Front (Reef) 9 months old 10 Gallon Sump Prizm Skimmer Wet/Dry Trickle Filter with Hangon Prefilter/Overflow (it works great, thanks for asking) Carbon in drip pan. 1/3 replaced bi-weekly Minimal Bio-Load Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calc 375 Alk 5.14 (meq/L) Iodine .06 ppm 60 lbs Aragonite Live Sand 45 lbs Live Rock Dosing B-Ionic - Daily as per requirements (usually 50 ml part 2) Iodine - Daily .5 ml Trace Elements - Weekly 3 ml Kalkwasser / Freshwater - Daily about a gallon (when Kalk its by drip) -- Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com -- Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com |
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So what do you think about the high Alk levels? You think it's fine? How
about it's affect on coraline algae growth? "Marc Levenson" wrote in message ... Try adding it a tiny bit at a time, over 30 seconds -- per part. Last night, I poured in the 15ml in my 29g all at once across the full length of the tank. Grabbed my flashlight to see what occured, and I had snow. In other words, precipitation and essentially useless. You don't want it to flake because then it basically did nothing. I added another 15 ml slowly and need to test my water today. grin Marc Rick wrote: Marc, When I dose part 1 it does get cloudy and I have noticed flakes with that. I figure that is was carbonate precipitation. Which I don't like one bit. I will dose slower with that in mind. When I dose the calcium part, part 2, in do it in 5 - 10 ml batches. It does not cloud nor flake. When I make up Kalkwasser, it flakes a lot in the container. -Rick "Marc Levenson" wrote in message ... Rick, I dose 30ml of B-Ionic daily in my 55g and my Ca and Alk are both high. 460 Ca and 13 dKH last time I tested. pH ranges between 8.1 and 8.38 daily. When you dose, do you pour it in very slowly, making sure it dissipates without turning to flakes? If it does, the dose was just wasted. Marc Rick wrote: Ooops sorry, forgot the other issue which i think is related. pH has trouble going over 8.1. I want this to be 8.3 but no dice with the Alk issues. I had hoped that with constant dosing and monitoring that it would slowly but surely settle out higher. But is has been 8.1 since the day I set it up. Inhabitants dont seem to mind. Sabae anemone is always eager to display himself, valintini puffer wont stop playing in the PH streams and the maroon clown is forever cleaning house for the anemone. -Rick "Rick" wrote in message news ![]() Lately I have been testing several times a night, in batches of 3. Three in regular res mode, by following the posted directions. And three in what I call super-res, by doubling the components. Calcium won't go over 375 ppm (confirmed with 2 seperate test kits both with standards) But it is constant there. Doesn't change from day to day. (even running the tests in super sensitivity mode.) Alk runs high from 3.2 to 5.2 meq/L. I dose with 2 part B-Ionic and/or Kalkwasser. When I use the 2 part, alot of times I end up just dosing part 2 (calcium component) so not to over-do the alk. When I am dosing Kalk, I set it up on a drip, totals about 1 gallon per day. (Which just so happens to be about what i loose in evap) I make the Kalk up in 2 gallon batches. When I dose B-Ionic I end up dosing about 50 ml of part two in a 46 gallon bowfront. This amount seems enough to maintain the calc, but not raise it. I would like to get calc to 400 to 425. Any advice? Also, I would like to get the Alk down. Not dosing for a while works but I was wondering if there is a method that can be used to raise it, besides water changes. (do enough of them @ 20% each month) Best regards, Rick System 46 Gallon Bow Front (Reef) 9 months old 10 Gallon Sump Prizm Skimmer Wet/Dry Trickle Filter with Hangon Prefilter/Overflow (it works great, thanks for asking) Carbon in drip pan. 1/3 replaced bi-weekly Minimal Bio-Load Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calc 375 Alk 5.14 (meq/L) Iodine .06 ppm 60 lbs Aragonite Live Sand 45 lbs Live Rock Dosing B-Ionic - Daily as per requirements (usually 50 ml part 2) Iodine - Daily .5 ml Trace Elements - Weekly 3 ml Kalkwasser / Freshwater - Daily about a gallon (when Kalk its by drip) -- Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com -- Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com |
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have you tested your magnesium?
with what your saying it sounds to me like your Mg is low. this will keep you from being able to get Ca levels up. kc "Rick" wrote in message t... So what do you think about the high Alk levels? You think it's fine? How about it's affect on coraline algae growth? "Marc Levenson" wrote in message ... Try adding it a tiny bit at a time, over 30 seconds -- per part. Last night, I poured in the 15ml in my 29g all at once across the full length of the tank. Grabbed my flashlight to see what occured, and I had snow. In other words, precipitation and essentially useless. You don't want it to flake because then it basically did nothing. I added another 15 ml slowly and need to test my water today. grin Marc Rick wrote: Marc, When I dose part 1 it does get cloudy and I have noticed flakes with that. I figure that is was carbonate precipitation. Which I don't like one bit. I will dose slower with that in mind. When I dose the calcium part, part 2, in do it in 5 - 10 ml batches. It does not cloud nor flake. When I make up Kalkwasser, it flakes a lot in the container. -Rick "Marc Levenson" wrote in message ... Rick, I dose 30ml of B-Ionic daily in my 55g and my Ca and Alk are both high. 460 Ca and 13 dKH last time I tested. pH ranges between 8.1 and 8.38 daily. When you dose, do you pour it in very slowly, making sure it dissipates without turning to flakes? If it does, the dose was just wasted. Marc Rick wrote: Ooops sorry, forgot the other issue which i think is related. pH has trouble going over 8.1. I want this to be 8.3 but no dice with the Alk issues. I had hoped that with constant dosing and monitoring that it would slowly but surely settle out higher. But is has been 8.1 since the day I set it up. Inhabitants dont seem to mind. Sabae anemone is always eager to display himself, valintini puffer wont stop playing in the PH streams and the maroon clown is forever cleaning house for the anemone. -Rick "Rick" wrote in message news ![]() Lately I have been testing several times a night, in batches of 3. Three in regular res mode, by following the posted directions. And three in what I call super-res, by doubling the components. Calcium won't go over 375 ppm (confirmed with 2 seperate test kits both with standards) But it is constant there. Doesn't change from day to day. (even running the tests in super sensitivity mode.) Alk runs high from 3.2 to 5.2 meq/L. I dose with 2 part B-Ionic and/or Kalkwasser. When I use the 2 part, alot of times I end up just dosing part 2 (calcium component) so not to over-do the alk. When I am dosing Kalk, I set it up on a drip, totals about 1 gallon per day. (Which just so happens to be about what i loose in evap) I make the Kalk up in 2 gallon batches. When I dose B-Ionic I end up dosing about 50 ml of part two in a 46 gallon bowfront. This amount seems enough to maintain the calc, but not raise it. I would like to get calc to 400 to 425. Any advice? Also, I would like to get the Alk down. Not dosing for a while works but I was wondering if there is a method that can be used to raise it, besides water changes. (do enough of them @ 20% each month) Best regards, Rick System 46 Gallon Bow Front (Reef) 9 months old 10 Gallon Sump Prizm Skimmer Wet/Dry Trickle Filter with Hangon Prefilter/Overflow (it works great, thanks for asking) Carbon in drip pan. 1/3 replaced bi-weekly Minimal Bio-Load Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calc 375 Alk 5.14 (meq/L) Iodine .06 ppm 60 lbs Aragonite Live Sand 45 lbs Live Rock Dosing B-Ionic - Daily as per requirements (usually 50 ml part 2) Iodine - Daily .5 ml Trace Elements - Weekly 3 ml Kalkwasser / Freshwater - Daily about a gallon (when Kalk its by drip) -- Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com -- Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com |
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I had similar problems a couple years back and I found that as long as
my alk was high it was very difficult to raise my calcium levels above 360. I now try to keep my alk between 3.0 and 3.5 and have no trouble keeping my calc above 400. But I don't claim to be an expert by any stretch... Here's a link to very good article about calcium and alkalinity that someone else in this group posted earlier. It goes in to great detail about how to correct Ca/Alk problems. http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm Marc Levenson wrote in message ... Rick, I dose 30ml of B-Ionic daily in my 55g and my Ca and Alk are both high. 460 Ca and 13 dKH last time I tested. pH ranges between 8.1 and 8.38 daily. When you dose, do you pour it in very slowly, making sure it dissipates without turning to flakes? If it does, the dose was just wasted. Marc Rick wrote: Ooops sorry, forgot the other issue which i think is related. pH has trouble going over 8.1. I want this to be 8.3 but no dice with the Alk issues. I had hoped that with constant dosing and monitoring that it would slowly but surely settle out higher. But is has been 8.1 since the day I set it up. Inhabitants dont seem to mind. Sabae anemone is always eager to display himself, valintini puffer wont stop playing in the PH streams and the maroon clown is forever cleaning house for the anemone. -Rick "Rick" wrote in message news ![]() I am having some problems maintaining calcium and alkalinity. Lately I have been testing several times a night, in batches of 3. Three in regular res mode, by following the posted directions. And three in what I call super-res, by doubling the components. Calcium won't go over 375 ppm (confirmed with 2 seperate test kits both with standards) But it is constant there. Doesn't change from day to day. (even running the tests in super sensitivity mode.) Alk runs high from 3.2 to 5.2 meq/L. I dose with 2 part B-Ionic and/or Kalkwasser. When I use the 2 part, alot of times I end up just dosing part 2 (calcium component) so not to over-do the alk. When I am dosing Kalk, I set it up on a drip, totals about 1 gallon per day. (Which just so happens to be about what i loose in evap) I make the Kalk up in 2 gallon batches. When I dose B-Ionic I end up dosing about 50 ml of part two in a 46 gallon bowfront. This amount seems enough to maintain the calc, but not raise it. I would like to get calc to 400 to 425. Any advice? Also, I would like to get the Alk down. Not dosing for a while works but I was wondering if there is a method that can be used to raise it, besides water changes. (do enough of them @ 20% each month) Best regards, Rick System 46 Gallon Bow Front (Reef) 9 months old 10 Gallon Sump Prizm Skimmer Wet/Dry Trickle Filter with Hangon Prefilter/Overflow (it works great, thanks for asking) Carbon in drip pan. 1/3 replaced bi-weekly Minimal Bio-Load Ammonia 0 Nitrite 0 Nitrate 0 Calc 375 Alk 5.14 (meq/L) Iodine .06 ppm 60 lbs Aragonite Live Sand 45 lbs Live Rock Dosing B-Ionic - Daily as per requirements (usually 50 ml part 2) Iodine - Daily .5 ml Trace Elements - Weekly 3 ml Kalkwasser / Freshwater - Daily about a gallon (when Kalk its by drip) |
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