Aquarists vs Marine Biologists

"J R-S" wrote in message news
Maybe I am not, but maybe I am...
lol, listen, I live in Orlando, maybe we can arrange a meeting to show you
my display in a few months once the NO2 and PO4 are stable. At the same
time you can see my publications and current work.
Just for the hell of it son!

Can I ask for a list of your previous publications ?
Maybe at least a list of journal titles ?
It would be cool to read something you wrote about
marine biology for a change... And it looks I will
never see anything like this written by you here...
So maybe you can list sci journal titles and volume
numbers I can find your articles in the library ?

"J R-S" wrote in message ...
Apparently the focus of your attacks are agains me as a person, not against
my findings. That is easily understood since I made a head-on attack to the
establishment and to stupid conventionalities... I can understand that...

You know this is BS. I asked you about your findings and you did not
say anything. Then you behave like an asshole and you are very surprised
people focus on you not on the findings you do not make public...

Nevertheless, I am putting my invention on the line and already invited my
worst attacker to see my tank in person. Yes, I live close to Wayne and
after the design is stable, he and anyone else is welcome to see with your
own eyes that the darn thing works!

If your offer is real, you will post at least a list of your papers here
for everybody to see how smart you are and how much your words are worth!
Somehow I doubt this list will show up here... I do not know why ;-)

Oh, not in Pembroke Pines anymore :-)

Yea, your not very far away now.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



J R-S wrote on 3/18/2006 9:43 PM:
Maybe I am not, but maybe I am...
lol, listen, I live in Orlando, maybe we can arrange a meeting to show you
my display in a few months once the NO2 and PO4 are stable. At the same
time you can see my publications and current work.
Just for the hell of it son!

jrs
"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
...
J R-S wrote on 3/18/2006 5:06 PM:
To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the field.
Well then that leaves you out.

You should have titled this thread "Aquarists vs Troll" because you are no
marine biologist.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

lol
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"J R-S" wrote in message
news
Maybe I am not, but maybe I am...
lol, listen, I live in Orlando, maybe we can arrange a meeting to show
you my display in a few months once the NO2 and PO4 are stable. At the
same time you can see my publications and current work.
Just for the hell of it son!

Can I ask for a list of your previous publications ?
Maybe at least a list of journal titles ?
It would be cool to read something you wrote about marine biology for a
change... And it looks I will
never see anything like this written by you here...
So maybe you can list sci journal titles and volume
numbers I can find your articles in the library ?

have a nice day amigo
jrs
"Pszemol" wrote in message
...
"J R-S" wrote in message
...
Apparently the focus of your attacks are agains me as a person, not
against my findings. That is easily understood since I made a head-on
attack to the establishment and to stupid conventionalities... I can
understand that...

You know this is BS. I asked you about your findings and you did not
say anything. Then you behave like an asshole and you are very surprised
people focus on you not on the findings you do not make public...

Nevertheless, I am putting my invention on the line and already invited
my worst attacker to see my tank in person. Yes, I live close to Wayne
and after the design is stable, he and anyone else is welcome to see with
your own eyes that the darn thing works!

If your offer is real, you will post at least a list of your papers here
for everybody to see how smart you are and how much your words are worth!
Somehow I doubt this list will show up here... I do not know why ;-)

First of all, I am sorry but, how did I insult your intelligence?
All I've gotten in this group is insult after insult just because I dare to
break from the main stream. Talking about trolls, yeah right!
Second of all, to be able to insult something, that something has to exist!
take it whichever way you want.
jrs
"TheRock" wrote in message
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J R-S
Aside from you being an antagonist to some in this group
we all have professional careers as well. For instance, I am a
Mechanical Engineer. So for you to continually come here and insult our
intelligence is getting old.

Your friends say you'll **** off the "establishment". I think you're
doing a fine job
at ****ing everyone off. Instead of participating and sharing experiences
you are dictating and putting people down. I'd say drop the attitude and
participate and people might end up liking you.

You certainly have something to offer this group, just don't have to be so
condescending.

I work with a few higher level engineers that could be management but they
never will
because they have ZERO people skills. Be a politician, be polite and
people will be more accepting. When I first came to this group
I knew who had the big heads and who didn't...the last thing you do is
charge in
kamikaze style and butt heads.

So your marine bio degree means nothing here if nobody listens to you.

Think...



"J R-S" wrote in message
...
According to dictionary.com, an aquarists is he who maintains an
aquarium, in the other hand, a Marine Biologist is a specialist.



In other words, anyone that maintains an aquarium good or bad is an
aquarist. To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the
field.



Before I decided to enter the aquarist's domain, I was told not to by
colleagues because the "establishment" was going to start bombarding me
with obstacles since they had been doing things in a very profitable way
and bringing common sense to the domain was going to encounter a lot of
criticism.



When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge could
bring hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but find it too
expensive.

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7 months
running it with no water changes and with inexpensive equipment. My
hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but common sense. It is
that common sense that sparked the criticism of, whom else, but those
benefiting with selling that expensive and overrated set of gadgets.



I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a
bio/mech filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates and
nitrites from the water without expensive investments or any stupid
chemical at all.



Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new system
stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore pumping
system only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2 water changes a
year.



If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits you
are getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something, you can
satisfy your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the money will be
well spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a piece of ocean in
your home for relaxation and aesthetic purposes, talk to a specialist not
to a custodian. There will be a marine bio close to your house, ask
him/her if your system is cycling products and if there is an evident
cybernetic use of nutrients, if that is not the case, go to your closest
pet shop and bring a nice checkbook with you, you'll need it.



jrs

This is what I'm talking about. I can see making friends is tough for you.
So think about what I said. You can think somebody lacks intel, but you
don't need to say it.
You never insulted me, but people are spending more time arguing with you
than
using this group for what it's for. Helping and sharing experiences.

Like I said you have posted some interesting comments, work on your
approach.
I will, as most people, appreciate good feedback and ideas.

Maybe News Groups aren't for you.
Perhaps you should be writing articles for http://www.advancedaquarist.com/
or some other online magazine.

Be nice, not all of us get to live on a tropical island.
Some of us live in bum-**** North East freezing cold places.

later




"J R-S" wrote in message
...
First of all, I am sorry but, how did I insult your intelligence?
All I've gotten in this group is insult after insult just because I dare
to break from the main stream. Talking about trolls, yeah right!
Second of all, to be able to insult something, that something has to
exist! take it whichever way you want.
jrs
"TheRock" wrote in message
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block sender...Use it

J R-S
Aside from you being an antagonist to some in this group
we all have professional careers as well. For instance, I am a
Mechanical Engineer. So for you to continually come here and insult our
intelligence is getting old.

Your friends say you'll **** off the "establishment". I think you're
doing a fine job
at ****ing everyone off. Instead of participating and sharing
experiences
you are dictating and putting people down. I'd say drop the attitude and
participate and people might end up liking you.

You certainly have something to offer this group, just don't have to be
so condescending.

I work with a few higher level engineers that could be management but
they never will
because they have ZERO people skills. Be a politician, be polite and
people will be more accepting. When I first came to this group
I knew who had the big heads and who didn't...the last thing you do is
charge in
kamikaze style and butt heads.

So your marine bio degree means nothing here if nobody listens to you.

Think...



"J R-S" wrote in message
...
According to dictionary.com, an aquarists is he who maintains an
aquarium, in the other hand, a Marine Biologist is a specialist.



In other words, anyone that maintains an aquarium good or bad is an
aquarist. To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the
field.



Before I decided to enter the aquarist's domain, I was told not to by
colleagues because the "establishment" was going to start bombarding me
with obstacles since they had been doing things in a very profitable way
and bringing common sense to the domain was going to encounter a lot of
criticism.



When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge could
bring hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but find it too
expensive.

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7 months
running it with no water changes and with inexpensive equipment. My
hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but common sense. It is
that common sense that sparked the criticism of, whom else, but those
benefiting with selling that expensive and overrated set of gadgets.



I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a
bio/mech filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates and
nitrites from the water without expensive investments or any stupid
chemical at all.



Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new system
stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore pumping
system only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2 water changes a
year.



If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits you
are getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something, you can
satisfy your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the money will
be well spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a piece of ocean
in your home for relaxation and aesthetic purposes, talk to a specialist
not to a custodian. There will be a marine bio close to your house, ask
him/her if your system is cycling products and if there is an evident
cybernetic use of nutrients, if that is not the case, go to your closest
pet shop and bring a nice checkbook with you, you'll need it.



jrs

"J R-S" wrote on Sun, 19 Mar 2006:
All I've gotten in this group is insult after insult just because I dare to
break from the main stream.

You're confused about the reason.

People here actually like "breaking from the mainstream". For example, it
was interesting when Ron Shimek (and others) started suggesting the benefits
of keeping a Deep Sand Bed in a reef aquarium. That's a relatively new
suggestion in the hobby. Ron provided lots of data, analysis, suggestions,
keep tons of successful tanks himself, wrote (and published) scientific
articles in marine biology journals, etc. All good stuff. No negative
reaction from "the establishment".

On the other hand, you've received "insult after insult" because you're
an asshole, not because you "dare" to break from the mainstream.

Lots of people have explained to you why, starting from the insulting tone
of your own messages, to your arguments from authority ("I'm a marine
biologist"), to your premature claims of success ("this is a better idea ...
or will be in a few months when everything settles down"), to your claims of
secret knowledge that somehow we're all too silly to adopt, yet you won't
actually reveal even the slightest detail.

This is why you're being insulted. Because you're an idiot.

However, plenty of nice, intelligent people have suggested new methodologies
for reef aquariums, and been welcomed with open arms. The difference in
your case is ... you.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
We like to praise birds for flying. But how much of it is actually flying, and
how much of it is just sort of coasting from the previous flap?
-- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey

"Don Geddis" wrote in message ...
However, plenty of nice, intelligent people have suggested new methodologies
for reef aquariums, and been welcomed with open arms. The difference in
your case is ... you.

Well said, Don.

Well, I do have to yield on you, thought me a good lesson.
It was just that I only encountered criticism in this group and I only
wanted to share, it came to a point that I will share nothing.
I am sorry, I will stick around and you are right, people are just spending
more time argueing with me than enjoying the benefits of this forum...

jrs
"TheRock" wrote in message
news:4ofTf.333$Qm2.268@trndny03...
This is what I'm talking about. I can see making friends is tough for you.
So think about what I said. You can think somebody lacks intel, but you
don't need to say it.
You never insulted me, but people are spending more time arguing with you
than
using this group for what it's for. Helping and sharing experiences.

Like I said you have posted some interesting comments, work on your
approach.
I will, as most people, appreciate good feedback and ideas.

Maybe News Groups aren't for you.
Perhaps you should be writing articles for
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/
or some other online magazine.

Be nice, not all of us get to live on a tropical island.
Some of us live in bum-**** North East freezing cold places.

later




"J R-S" wrote in message
...
First of all, I am sorry but, how did I insult your intelligence?
All I've gotten in this group is insult after insult just because I dare
to break from the main stream. Talking about trolls, yeah right!
Second of all, to be able to insult something, that something has to
exist! take it whichever way you want.
jrs
"TheRock" wrote in message
news:LydTf.1304$3t1.52@trndny08...
People, In Internet explorers News Reader there is an option to
block sender...Use it

J R-S
Aside from you being an antagonist to some in this group
we all have professional careers as well. For instance, I am a
Mechanical Engineer. So for you to continually come here and insult our
intelligence is getting old.

Your friends say you'll **** off the "establishment". I think you're
doing a fine job
at ****ing everyone off. Instead of participating and sharing
experiences
you are dictating and putting people down. I'd say drop the attitude
and
participate and people might end up liking you.

You certainly have something to offer this group, just don't have to be
so condescending.

I work with a few higher level engineers that could be management but
they never will
because they have ZERO people skills. Be a politician, be polite and
people will be more accepting. When I first came to this group
I knew who had the big heads and who didn't...the last thing you do is
charge in
kamikaze style and butt heads.

So your marine bio degree means nothing here if nobody listens to you.

Think...



"J R-S" wrote in message
...
According to dictionary.com, an aquarists is he who maintains an
aquarium, in the other hand, a Marine Biologist is a specialist.



In other words, anyone that maintains an aquarium good or bad is an
aquarist. To be a Marine biologist you have to be a specialist on the
field.



Before I decided to enter the aquarist's domain, I was told not to by
colleagues because the "establishment" was going to start bombarding me
with obstacles since they had been doing things in a very profitable
way and bringing common sense to the domain was going to encounter a
lot of criticism.



When I came to this group I was hoping that my field knowledge could
bring hope to those that want to have a marine aquarium but find it too
expensive.

I started with a prototype of a sal****er aquarium and after 7 months
running it with no water changes and with inexpensive equipment. My
hypothesis was correct; there is nothing to it but common sense. It is
that common sense that sparked the criticism of, whom else, but those
benefiting with selling that expensive and overrated set of gadgets.



I finally finished putting together a nice display aquarium with a
bio/mech filter that has a built-in skimmer and extracts phosphates and
nitrites from the water without expensive investments or any stupid
chemical at all.



Soon the filter will be in the market, I just have to get the new
system stable. It includes no expensive illumination, no hardcore
pumping system only a powerhead, no skimmer and no more than 2 water
changes a year.



If you are spending a lot of money on your system and the benefits you
are getting is just bragging rights, let me tell you something, you can
satisfy your bragging rights with a new Alpha Romeo and the money will
be well spent. In the other hand, if you want to have a piece of ocean
in your home for relaxation and aesthetic purposes, talk to a
specialist not to a custodian. There will be a marine bio close to
your house, ask him/her if your system is cycling products and if there
is an evident cybernetic use of nutrients, if that is not the case, go
to your closest pet shop and bring a nice checkbook with you, you'll
need it.



jrs