lack of growth in offspring

i have been breeding and rearing platys and apple snails for a long
time now. have seen 3 to 4 generations now. from generation to
generation i see snails are loosing the strength of the shell and the
latest is some part of the shells are actually invisible what could be
the reason

the other one is in platys or mollys offspring never reach the size or
colour of their parents

rahul

because they are probably inbred just like you...........go get a life
and find someother place to post, these groups are closed and being
converted to a new home for trolls.........and a whore house or two.



On 8 Jun 2006 14:52:24 -0700, "
wrote:
i have been breeding and rearing platys and apple snails for a long
time now. have seen 3 to 4 generations now. from generation to
generation i see snails are loosing the strength of the shell and the
latest is some part of the shells are actually invisible what could be
the reason

the other one is in platys or mollys offspring never reach the size or
colour of their parents

rahul

" wrote in
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i have been breeding and rearing platys and apple snails for a long
time now. have seen 3 to 4 generations now. from generation to
generation i see snails are loosing the strength of the shell and the
latest is some part of the shells are actually invisible what could be
the reason

Snails need trace elements like iodine and lots of calcium carbonate.
Chances are your water is becoming depleted in these minerals, especially
calcium carbonate. You can use something like Seachem's Equilibrium GH
buffer to add these minerals to your water or you can dose them
individually. Calcium carbonate can be added directly, but be wary of how
much you add as it is an alkaline buffer so your pH will climb.


the other one is in platys or mollys offspring never reach the size or
colour of their parents

Are you line breeding your platys or just letting the masses go at it? It
could be a genetic deficiency or it could be just diet.

Try feeding the fry more nutritious food like baby brine shrimp mixed with
LOTS of green matter (such as crushed up HBH's 8 Veggie Flake). Platys are
natural herbivores, but they need protein to grow large.

*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

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i have been breeding and rearing platys and apple snails for a long
time now. have seen 3 to 4 generations now. from generation to
generation i see snails are loosing the strength of the shell and the
latest is some part of the shells are actually invisible what could be
the reason

Your water is probably acidic. Snails need calcium in the water to form
shell tissue. You can add dolomite gravel to your tank or crushed oyster
shell. Try to keep the PH above 7.

the other one is in platys or mollys offspring never reach the size or
colour of their parents

Inbreeding? Not enough variety in their diets? Overcrowding? Not enough
partial water changes?
--
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yet more unsubstantiated bull**** carol copped from a website
somewhere .......she herself is about like a snail, er ah make that a
slug........she is just a jerk from Mt. Juliet, TN.......with an anal
loving boi named -ED Alston as her adviser in kind. hahahahaha

..On Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:56:27 -0500, "Koi-Lo" Reply to NG Only wrote:
*Note: There are two "Koi-Lo's" on the pond and aquaria groups.

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i have been breeding and rearing platys and apple snails for a long
time now. have seen 3 to 4 generations now. from generation to
generation i see snails are loosing the strength of the shell and the
latest is some part of the shells are actually invisible what could be
the reason

Your water is probably acidic. Snails need calcium in the water to form
shell tissue. You can add dolomite gravel to your tank or crushed oyster
shell. Try to keep the PH above 7.

the other one is in platys or mollys offspring never reach the size or
colour of their parents

Inbreeding? Not enough variety in their diets? Overcrowding? Not enough
partial water changes?

"Roy" Hauer aka Koi-Lo wrote in message
...

Well flattery will not get you anywhere with me boy you still are a
dickhead. See you should have spent more time studying instead of
playing with yourself. Has anyone ever told you that you look like a
Dick with ears? Well if not, you do!

Well I am of the belief that your still a ****ing asshole.

"dc" wrote in message
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" wrote in
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i have been breeding and rearing platys and apple snails for a long
time now. have seen 3 to 4 generations now. from generation to
generation i see snails are loosing the strength of the shell and the
latest is some part of the shells are actually invisible what could be
the reason

Snails need trace elements like iodine and lots of calcium carbonate.
Chances are your water is becoming depleted in these minerals, especially
calcium carbonate. You can use something like Seachem's Equilibrium GH
buffer to add these minerals to your water or you can dose them
individually. Calcium carbonate can be added directly, but be wary of how
much you add as it is an alkaline buffer so your pH will climb.


the other one is in platys or mollys offspring never reach the size or
colour of their parents

Are you line breeding your platys or just letting the masses go at it? It
could be a genetic deficiency or it could be just diet.

Try feeding the fry more nutritious food like baby brine shrimp mixed with
LOTS of green matter (such as crushed up HBH's 8 Veggie Flake). Platys are
natural herbivores, but they need protein to grow large.

digenetic trematodes in all probability......



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i have been breeding and rearing platys and apple snails for a long
time now. have seen 3 to 4 generations now. from generation to
generation i see snails are loosing the strength of the shell and the
latest is some part of the shells are actually invisible what could be
the reason

the other one is in platys or mollys offspring never reach the size or
colour of their parents

rahul

wrote:

wrote in message news:1149803544.

Flonkensteen.

724978.

Missed out.

169930@u72g2000cwu.

Hon.

I'm only like this because when i was young my father often threw
objects across the house.

Right, well. Thanks for sharing, swarvegorilla.

googlegroups.com.

It's a different culture.

i worry about everything and anything, i get into moods where i just
cry because i hate the situation the world is in

Hey, it could be worse. You could be fat.

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Frugal ponding since 1995.
Aquariums since 1952.
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I do not post from Earthlink.net
All rude and/or obscene messages posted in my
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I dunno wtf that all meant but either a digenetic trematode ( worm that uses
snail as host) or insufficent water changes to dilute the alpha males
pheramones (stunts other fry)
Lot of frequent feeds of high protien foods is also the go.
Buff 'em up
dunno what the rest of the stuff in ya post is about