Eco Aqualizer or Skimmer?

Jason wrote:
I was looking around for info on the diffurent Protien Skimmers and was
wondering if this was a decent product or was just a bogus "lets sell the
customer anything" ordeal http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/products.htm never
heard of this but it looks to be interesting and would like to get some
input on the product has anyone used it before or are using now I dont have
the $$ to just spend to test a product out hehe thanks for the input in
advance

As others have already said, this looks "iffy". However, if you're
looking for a skimmer, you might want to consider the CPR refugium/
skimmer combo. Not the best skimmer, and not the best refugium, but
both are good, and the combo's at a decent price.

Mike

I would buy a Coralife Super Skimmer in a heart beat over any Eco
Aqualizer. On yet another web based forum, there was a fairly bad pi$$
ing contest between posters in regards to the Eco Aqualizer and its so
called claims to fame.....4 or 5 of them wound up being hard headed
abd bought the units. Initially they were all bragging on what they
were expecting and what was happening, and within a month 3 fessed up
it initially did help, or so they thought it did, but their water
quality was as bad and maybe even worse and two of them had problems
when they tried toget a refund 9n the money back warranty. Anyone can
put up outrageous claims and bogus testimonials on the internet. The
truth being is in the old addage, if it appears to be too good to be
true it probably is not true. Most folks could smell a scam or semi
scam here from the start, others bit for it hook line and sinker. Its
a typical product that should join the like of the items they sell
between the hours of 1am and 4 am on TV.

Its hard to beat a coral life super skimmer for providing best bang
for the buck. And a 5 or 10 gal all glass aquarium is just to cheap
to but and modify into a sump and or refugium than the typical acrylic
CPR products, even if yu have to drill the tank to use it, as its a
relatively straight forward job of drilling a glass tank and is doable
by virtually any home type. Its more hype involved than anything else
and is as easy as 1, 2, 3.On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 03:07:26 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

Jason wrote:
I was looking around for info on the diffurent Protien Skimmers and was
wondering if this was a decent product or was just a bogus "lets sell the
customer anything" ordeal http://www.ecoaqualizer.com/products.htm never
heard of this but it looks to be interesting and would like to get some
input on the product has anyone used it before or are using now I dont have
the $$ to just spend to test a product out hehe thanks for the input in
advance

As others have already said, this looks "iffy". However, if you're
looking for a skimmer, you might want to consider the CPR refugium/
skimmer combo. Not the best skimmer, and not the best refugium, but
both are good, and the combo's at a decent price.

Mike


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"Lone Gunner" wrote in message ...
[...] even if yu have to drill the tank to use it, as its a
relatively straight forward job of drilling a glass tank and is doable
by virtually any home type. Its more hype involved than anything else
and is as easy as 1, 2, 3.

Not every tank can be drilled.
Good luck drilling the ones with tempered glass...

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:17:31 -0500, "Jason"
wrote:

yeah I have I was looking at this one Red Sea Berlin skimmer Berlin
Classic-25 to 250gal with Rio+ 2500UL Pump, but what filter would you
recommend with it would the emperor 400 be a good one to go with?

Absolutely no filter at all, just use the rock. As I say if you read
up Berlin you will see why filters are harmful in a reef, not helpful.

Steve

On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 20:41:46 -0500, "Jason"
wrote:

ok cool I will have to get a sump because the tank does not have one it was
a freshwater with a pengiun 200 on it as the filter and that was it,

Remember that if you want to use a freshwater tank with a sump you
will need to arrange some sort of overflow to get the water back down
to the sump. A proper marine tank will have a baffle type overflow
and will be drilled somewhere behind that to let you pipe the
sal****er back down to that sump. You can use a standpipe if the
bottom of the tank has been drilled and you have access below. The
height of the baffle or standpipe sets the level. Although it's not
the ideal way to do it, you can convert a basic tank by getting a
reasonably large hole drilled at water level, and attaching a bulkhead
type plumbing fitting there, rather like an overflow is provided on a
domestic water tank. I say not ideal because obstruction and water
level variation is more likely with such an arrangement, but it worked
OK for me for one tank I had.

Steve

"Lone Gunner" wrote in message ...
The majority of them can be drilled though....All it takes is a post
to state what size and brand name tank they intend topdrill and its
easy to reply with the yes or no its not doable on that tank....Even
the manufacturers have online references as to their being tempered or
not. Its certianly not a black art.

I am not saying it is black art...
The problem is that the majority of tanks on the market are made
of tempered glass on the bottom. So drilling is out of question.

It's not quite that simple. First you have to figure out
what the manufacture is, then decide when it was made,
then decide if it is tempered or not.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Lone Gunner wrote on 6/13/2006 8:33 AM:
The majority of them can be drilled though....All it takes is a post
to state what size and brand name tank they intend topdrill and its
easy to reply with the yes or no its not doable on that tank....Even
the manufacturers have online references as to their being tempered or
not. Its certianly not a black art.

Well its certainly not that hard either.....There is a couple of ways
to determine if its tepered or not as well as ,mfgr website / info.
On top of that if the sump is on the bottom under a display tank or
behind the display tank then there is really no need to drill the
bottom period. There is some 55's with all tempered glass, and they
are the ones sold by Wal MArt...My main intent on what I stated is,
its not hard to drill a tank, nor is it hard to figure out, but
evidently its kind of hard for some of you to face the facts you do
not know everything there is to know about everything..so the first
thing you do is put down anyones input to the contrary.

On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:12:45 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote:
It's not quite that simple. First you have to figure out
what the manufacture is, then decide when it was made,
then decide if it is tempered or not.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Lone Gunner wrote on 6/13/2006 8:33 AM:
The majority of them can be drilled though....All it takes is a post
to state what size and brand name tank they intend topdrill and its
easy to reply with the yes or no its not doable on that tank....Even
the manufacturers have online references as to their being tempered or
not. Its certianly not a black art.

LoneGunner wrote on 6/13/2006 2:47 PM:
its not hard to drill a tank, nor is it hard to figure out, but
evidently its kind of hard for some of you to face the facts you do
not know everything there is to know about everything..so the first
thing you do is put down anyones input to the contrary.

Since you say it's not hard to figure out if a tank is
tempered or not, then how are you going to tell if the
tank is tempered? Look at it while standing on your head?

You need to admit that you can not be 100% sure whether or
not any given tank is tempered, and what pieces of glass
are tempered on the tank, and what pieces are not.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets

Well since you show your ignorance, Its prertty well understandable
that you would not comprehend how to differentiate between tempered
and non tempered glass if I was to expain it ot you like you were a 2
year old. Suffice it to say, trying to hld a coversation with most in
this group is akin to talking to dictators or know it alls.

Guess there is no need to participate here since about 2 or 3 of yu
have ALL the bases covered.

Bye

PS MAybe that fellow Reef BAy wsa not as dumb as you all gave him
credit for, he was right in a lot of what he had to say.......Wayne
Sallee is pretty well mush an IDIOT.
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:50:52 GMT, Wayne Sallee
wrote:
LoneGunner wrote on 6/13/2006 2:47 PM:
its not hard to drill a tank, nor is it hard to figure out, but
evidently its kind of hard for some of you to face the facts you do
not know everything there is to know about everything..so the first
thing you do is put down anyones input to the contrary.

Since you say it's not hard to figure out if a tank is
tempered or not, then how are you going to tell if the
tank is tempered? Look at it while standing on your head?

You need to admit that you can not be 100% sure whether or
not any given tank is tempered, and what pieces of glass
are tempered on the tank, and what pieces are not.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets