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Old September 28th 06, 01:15 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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I have a sick pleco. Not immediately dying but obviously ill, losing
weight, pale, etc. What is the most humane way for me to play Dr. Fish
Death and help this little guy into the next life? Would like to do this,
this evening.

A friend said to put him in a small jar with only some water, put him in the
deep freeze and he will go to sleep. ???




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Old September 28th 06, 01:37 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Chris B wrote:
A friend said to put him in a small jar with only some water, put him in the
deep freeze and he will go to sleep. ???


No! Contrary to popular belief, death by freezer is quite traumatic for
the fish.
The best way is to put him/her on a solid surface and chop his/her head
off. I know, it sounds horrible, but it's the fastest most painless
death for fish.


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Old September 28th 06, 01:51 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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well unfortunately for the fish, I will not be doing that suggestion. ~
(squirmish female here)



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Old September 28th 06, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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"Chris B" wrote in message
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well unfortunately for the fish, I will not be doing that suggestion. ~
(squirmish female here)




Please type 'aquarium fish euthenasia' into Google....

There is a humane way using vodka......I don't remember the details.






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Old September 28th 06, 03:27 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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Victor Martinez wrote in
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No! Contrary to popular belief, death by freezer is quite traumatic
for the fish.
The best way is to put him/her on a solid surface and chop his/her
head off. I know, it sounds horrible, but it's the fastest most
painless death for fish.


Fish nerve tissue is tolerant of anoxia. Ever seen piranha feed on
goldfish? They often eat the body but leave the head which continues to
demonstrate awareness and motor activity for some time. The brain may
continue to survive for several minutes after decapitation.


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Old September 28th 06, 03:45 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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"Chris B" wrote in
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I have a sick pleco. Not immediately dying but obviously ill, losing
weight, pale, etc. What is the most humane way for me to play Dr.
Fish Death and help this little guy into the next life? Would like
to do this, this evening.


Are you sure there is no other solution? Are you able to quarantine him in
a separate tank and provide him with shelter and an enticing food source?
Spirulina enriched brine shrimp would be a good option. Getting a pleco to
eat that has been starving for some time can be difficult.

What have you been feeding him up until this point? Most plecostomus are
omnivorous and require more than just algae to survive.


A friend said to put him in a small jar with only some water, put him
in the deep freeze and he will go to sleep. ???


Death by freezing is not painless. It is a widely held misconception that
this is the most humane way to euthanize a fish. Somehow it has become
widely believed that just because fish are cold blooded they do not
experience stress or pain when exposed to extremely low temperatures.

Just because a fish is unresponsive when hypothermic does not mean it has
peacefully gone to sleep; it may be able to fully perceive itself and
simply lacks the capacity to use metabolic energy to respond.

A more humane method of euthanizing a fish is to overdose with clove oil--a
common sedative used on fish by aquarists and veterinarians alike.

Another is to use carbon dioxide fizz tabs-or any other method of
administering CO2 to the water. Place the fish in a small volume of water
in a sealed container with as many as these tabs as you can and the fish
will pass out and die shortly there after.
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Old September 28th 06, 05:46 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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"Chris B" wrote...
I have a sick pleco. Not immediately dying but obviously ill, losing
weight, pale, etc. What is the most humane way for me to play Dr. Fish
Death and help this little guy into the next life? Would like to do this,
this evening.

A friend said to put him in a small jar with only some water, put him in
the deep freeze and he will go to sleep. ???


i. why are you sure the fish needs to be put to sleep?

ii. *if* you are going to euthenise, you have to understand or at least
acknowledge emotional attachement.

iii. humane methods are based on what we feel, not what the fish feels.

lets bring this all home-- if you were terminally ill, what would you want
your family to do?

i. be sure.

ii. do what is best for you and not themselves.

iii. absolve themselves of guilt.

this topic is too philisophical for debate with most people.



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Old September 28th 06, 04:32 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Larry Blanchard
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Chris B wrote:

I have a sick pleco. Not immediately dying but obviously ill, losing
weight, pale, etc. What is the most humane way for me to play Dr. Fish
Death and help this little guy into the next life? Would like to do this,
this evening.

Clove oil.

For small fish:

8 drops of clove oil
24 drops vodka
1 quart water

For large fish:

3ml clove oil
8ml vodka
1 gallon water

I've used this 3 times now. The fish swims normally and slows to a stop.
Leave it in the solution for an hour. While not necessary, I decapitate it
after that just to be safe.

I get clove oil (used for toothaches) at the pharmacy.

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Old September 30th 06, 06:48 PM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
Marco Schwarz
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Hi..

The best way is to put him/her on a solid surface and chop
his/her head off.


I agree..! We're used to call it (directely translated)
"neck cut"..
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Old October 1st 06, 02:44 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.misc
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"Chris B" wrote in message
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I have a sick pleco. Not immediately dying but obviously ill, losing
weight, pale, etc. What is the most humane way for me to play Dr. Fish
Death and help this little guy into the next life? Would like to do this,
this evening.

A friend said to put him in a small jar with only some water, put him in
the deep freeze and he will go to sleep. ???





put it in good water and feed it veges
maybe a parasite remedy might work
either that or put in on the ground and drop a rock on it
that could kill it
maybe even call out 'meteor' before it hits sorta in a tribute to the last
65 million year ago mass extinctions


 




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