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Old November 4th 06, 03:30 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Low Ph and an airstone.....

I everyone, I'm new here and I do plan on adding all my tank info in
the next topic but for now I just want to know why an airstone is
recommended in a reef tank to raise the PH but I've so far never seen a
pic of a tank with bubbles in the background. I have problems with my
PH and have read several articles in this group regarding this problem
and lots of answers revolve around an airstone, does it go in the main
tank or in the sump?
Louise

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Old November 4th 06, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Low Ph and an airstone.....


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I everyone, I'm new here and I do plan on adding all my tank info in
the next topic but for now I just want to know why an airstone is
recommended in a reef tank to raise the PH but I've so far never seen a
pic of a tank with bubbles in the background. I have problems with my
PH and have read several articles in this group regarding this problem
and lots of answers revolve around an airstone, does it go in the main
tank or in the sump?
Louise


I don't know about air stones being of any benefit in a reef tank.
I would say, money would be better spent on power heads
or some closed loop circulation system.


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Old November 4th 06, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Low Ph and an airstone.....

Here are some good articles to read:
Low pH causes and cures:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rhf/index.php
High pH causes and cures:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-03/rhf/index.php


Bubbles are nasty because when they pop the spray a tiny amount of salt
water straight up and your light covers and any near by equipment gets
covered in salt. Also, if you have a functional protein skimmer going
that will do a fine job of aerating your water for you with millions of
little bubbles that in a properly designed skimmer will not get into
your main system.

Blake.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
No you don't want air stones in your salt water tank. It
is true that aeration drives off co2, thus raising the ph,
but what you want, is to add some buffer to get the ph up.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 11/4/2006 10:30 AM:
I everyone, I'm new here and I do plan on adding all my tank info in
the next topic but for now I just want to know why an airstone is
recommended in a reef tank to raise the PH but I've so far never seen a
pic of a tank with bubbles in the background. I have problems with my
PH and have read several articles in this group regarding this problem
and lots of answers revolve around an airstone, does it go in the main
tank or in the sump?
Louise


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Old November 6th 06, 05:28 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Low Ph and an airstone.....

How do I raise my O2 then if not with airbubles?
iy
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Here are some good articles to read:
Low pH causes and cures:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rhf/index.php
High pH causes and cures:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-03/rhf/index.php


Bubbles are nasty because when they pop the spray a tiny amount of salt
water straight up and your light covers and any near by equipment gets
covered in salt. Also, if you have a functional protein skimmer going
that will do a fine job of aerating your water for you with millions of
little bubbles that in a properly designed skimmer will not get into
your main system.

Blake.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
No you don't want air stones in your salt water tank. It
is true that aeration drives off co2, thus raising the ph,
but what you want, is to add some buffer to get the ph up.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 11/4/2006 10:30 AM:
I everyone, I'm new here and I do plan on adding all my tank info in
the next topic but for now I just want to know why an airstone is
recommended in a reef tank to raise the PH but I've so far never seen a
pic of a tank with bubbles in the background. I have problems with my
PH and have read several articles in this group regarding this problem
and lots of answers revolve around an airstone, does it go in the main
tank or in the sump?
Louise




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Old November 6th 06, 07:29 PM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Low Ph and an airstone.....

Increasing O2 won't increase ph. You already have plenty
of O2. It's the driving off of CO2 that increases ph. But
unless you have high levels of co2 in your house, then
that's really not an issue. You can try opening the
windows to let fresh air in, and see if that makes a
difference in your ph. Have you tried putting some buffer
in there?

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



Inabón Yunes wrote on 11/6/2006 12:28 AM:
How do I raise my O2 then if not with airbubles?
iy
wrote in message
ups.com...
Here are some good articles to read:
Low pH causes and cures:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rhf/index.php
High pH causes and cures:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-03/rhf/index.php


Bubbles are nasty because when they pop the spray a tiny amount of salt
water straight up and your light covers and any near by equipment gets
covered in salt. Also, if you have a functional protein skimmer going
that will do a fine job of aerating your water for you with millions of
little bubbles that in a properly designed skimmer will not get into
your main system.

Blake.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
No you don't want air stones in your salt water tank. It
is true that aeration drives off co2, thus raising the ph,
but what you want, is to add some buffer to get the ph up.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 11/4/2006 10:30 AM:
I everyone, I'm new here and I do plan on adding all my tank info in
the next topic but for now I just want to know why an airstone is
recommended in a reef tank to raise the PH but I've so far never seen a
pic of a tank with bubbles in the background. I have problems with my
PH and have read several articles in this group regarding this problem
and lots of answers revolve around an airstone, does it go in the main
tank or in the sump?
Louise



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Old November 7th 06, 12:37 AM posted to rec.aquaria.marine.reefs
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Default Low Ph and an airstone.....

Like I said, a good skimmer will expose your water to plenty of
bubbles.

As for addressing the problem of raising your pH, Kalkwasser does a
pretty good job, and increases the amount of calcium in your system
too, which is good. You can buy powdered kalkwasser that you mix up
with fresh water and then drip into your system. It's a little
annoying because it doesn't dissolve very well and sometimes your tubes
get clogged up, but the only equipment you need to buy is a dripper of
some kind. I use the Kent aquadosser, which is $20 from Drs. Foster
and Smith. Just be sure not to dose too quickly and keep an eye on
your pH because it's easy to over do it.

Blake.


Inabón Yunes wrote:
How do I raise my O2 then if not with airbubles?
iy
wrote in message
ups.com...
Here are some good articles to read:
Low pH causes and cures:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-09/rhf/index.php
High pH causes and cures:
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-03/rhf/index.php


Bubbles are nasty because when they pop the spray a tiny amount of salt
water straight up and your light covers and any near by equipment gets
covered in salt. Also, if you have a functional protein skimmer going
that will do a fine job of aerating your water for you with millions of
little bubbles that in a properly designed skimmer will not get into
your main system.

Blake.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
No you don't want air stones in your salt water tank. It
is true that aeration drives off co2, thus raising the ph,
but what you want, is to add some buffer to get the ph up.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 11/4/2006 10:30 AM:
I everyone, I'm new here and I do plan on adding all my tank info in
the next topic but for now I just want to know why an airstone is
recommended in a reef tank to raise the PH but I've so far never seen a
pic of a tank with bubbles in the background. I have problems with my
PH and have read several articles in this group regarding this problem
and lots of answers revolve around an airstone, does it go in the main
tank or in the sump?
Louise



 




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