Is This a Good Deal?

In article , RubenD
wrote:

If you are planning to add coral, and I think eventually you will, you
might want to avoid anemones since they like to move,
and sometimes will kill your coral when they touch. Besides, the clowns
will spend most of the time hiding inside.

I will probably not add any corals. I am looking for a low maintenance
fish only tank. I think (with a tank this size) I can have a dramatic
tank while keeping the maintenance to just the basics.

Haywood Jablowme wrote:
In article , RubenD
wrote:

If you are planning to add coral, and I think eventually you will, you
might want to avoid anemones since they like to move,
and sometimes will kill your coral when they touch. Besides, the clowns
will spend most of the time hiding inside.

I will probably not add any corals. I am looking for a low maintenance
fish only tank. I think (with a tank this size) I can have a dramatic
tank while keeping the maintenance to just the basics.

Soft corals can be very low maintainance, and quite impressive looking.

So can some hard corals.

Mike

In article ,
wrote:

Haywood Jablowme wrote:
In article , RubenD
wrote:

If you are planning to add coral, and I think eventually you will, you
might want to avoid anemones since they like to move,
and sometimes will kill your coral when they touch. Besides, the clowns
will spend most of the time hiding inside.

I will probably not add any corals. I am looking for a low maintenance
fish only tank. I think (with a tank this size) I can have a dramatic
tank while keeping the maintenance to just the basics.

Soft corals can be very low maintainance, and quite impressive looking.

So can some hard corals.

Mike

I'm considering using compact florescent lighting (and not metal
halides). Will the soft corals be OK with these? I don't really want
the heat associated with metal halides.

Haywood Jablowme wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

Soft corals can be very low maintainance, and quite impressive looking.

So can some hard corals.

I'm considering using compact florescent lighting (and not metal
halides). Will the soft corals be OK with these?

Many will, yes.

I don't really want
the heat associated with metal halides.

Don't blame you. I got rid of my halide/actinic comba, and put in T5
lighting.

Mike

In article ,
wrote:

Haywood Jablowme wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

Soft corals can be very low maintainance, and quite impressive looking.

So can some hard corals.

I'm considering using compact florescent lighting (and not metal
halides). Will the soft corals be OK with these?

Many will, yes.

I don't really want
the heat associated with metal halides.

Don't blame you. I got rid of my halide/actinic comba, and put in T5
lighting.

Mike
I'm trying to do as much reading as I can right now. I have seen a
number of pictures on the internet showing large tanks with both soft
corals and large angelfish (i.e. Koran Angelfish, Emperor Angelfish).
Does anyone know how these people are getting away with this? I'm
guessing that eventually the corals (they look like soft leather
corals) must be replaced. Won't angelfish like this eat soft corals?
This is what I always thought. If anyone has any insight on this, I
would appreciate some guidance. If there is a way to maintain a large
aquarium with both soft corals and Angelfish, I would really be
interested.

Haywood Jablowme wrote:
In article ,
wrote:

I don't really want
the heat associated with metal halides.

Don't blame you. I got rid of my halide/actinic comba, and put in T5
lighting.

I'm trying to do as much reading as I can right now. I have seen a
number of pictures on the internet showing large tanks with both soft
corals and large angelfish (i.e. Koran Angelfish, Emperor Angelfish).
Does anyone know how these people are getting away with this? I'm
guessing that eventually the corals (they look like soft leather
corals) must be replaced. Won't angelfish like this eat soft corals?
This is what I always thought. If anyone has any insight on this, I
would appreciate some guidance. If there is a way to maintain a large
aquarium with both soft corals and Angelfish, I would really be
interested.

Butterflies are much worse, but even they aren't too bad, if properly
fed.

The centropyge angels are really not much of a problem to all but the
most delicates corals.

Mike

Haywood Jablowme wrote:

Won't angelfish like this eat soft corals?

Some will. The Swallowtail and Lamarck's angels do not. The Rock Beauty is also
ok, but it eats sponges, so it's a bit hard to keep. The Asfur, Chrysurus,
Imperator, and Navarchus angels are said to be ok with "noxious soft corals."
Which corals are noxious is another research project.

All other large angels for sale on the Foster & Smith website are likely to at
least nip at corals of any type.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

I would have to say that 'fox faced rabbit fish' are an awesome fish, and a
lawn mower blenny is also a good buy.
2 of my favourites anyway



"Haywood Jablowme" wrote in message
...

Since everyone was so much help, I thought I should provide an update...

Tank was delivered and set up in January. The water went in and the
pumps started for the first time on 1/21. My LFS recommended cycling
the tank with damsels. So, I added 18 mixed damsels the following
weekend.

All went well but the cycle never started. So, the LFS gave me some
Ammonium Chloride to get things started. It worked as subsequent tests
showed that the cycle had indeed started. It took nearly two months,
but I returned the damsels and stocked my tank. I only lost 3 damsels
and one of them was my own fault as he was hurt when I tried to catch
him. Catching damsels in a 150 gallon tank is not the easiest thing...

The compact florescent bulbs actually produce more heat than I
expected. Not as much as metal halide bulbs, but still enough to raise
the temperature in the tank. The room runs between 76 F and 77 F.
Running the lights, the water in the tank is normally 79 F to 81 F. I
think I am going to get a small fan to mount in the hood. This way, I
can blow some of that heat out into the room. Hopefully, this will
cause the water to be a little cooler. Here in Florida, heat can be a
real problem.

My lighting consists of two of the Sunpaq retrofit kits installed
directly into the hood.

Fish a 3 Heniochus Butterflyfish, 2 Pacific Blue Tangs, 1 Longnose
Butterfly (not sure if its flavissimus or longirostris, does anyone
know an easy way to tell?), and a small Golden Jack (Gnathanodon
speciosus).

My plans are to add a group of Tangs (yellow/purple/sailfin) and a
Centropyge angel in a couple of weeks. Then I will begin looking for a
spectacular large angelfish to add. Perhaps an Emperor or a Blueface.
Any suggestions?

Never did get any Ocellaris Clownfish. In my area, there are simply no
large ones available. Only the very tiny ones which I didn't think
were appropriate for a tank this size (150 gallons).

What do you think of my fish selection so far? Unfortunately, I had to
select from what he had. Also, I only selected from fish that he has
had for at least two weeks and those that readily accepted food.

I would really welcome any suggestions for future additions.

Hey there is your looking for a blow job as yur insidius name
suggests your certianly in the right group with all these ****heads
around. Pszemol is a real BJ artist. and he had a good teacher WAYNE