Marine Itch

The immune system helps the fish from getting the ich, and
helps it from getting as much, and helps it get rid of it,
and helps it rid off infection, witch copper hurts the
immune system, making fish more at risk from getting a
secondary infection from ich. Also producing more blood
cells is part of the immune system.


Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



George Patterson wrote on 12/29/2006 10:54 PM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
Not if the fish has a good immune system.

Ick is a parasite; not a disease. It doesn't matter how good the immune
system is when the fish can't get oxygen 'cause the gills are covered
with bugs, or is being bled to death by these little suckers.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
The immune system helps the fish from getting the ich, and helps it from
getting as much, and helps it get rid of it, ....

Just like a good immune system keeps you from picking up ticks in the woods and
makes them fall off faster? Dream on.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

But that medicine works good for dogs :-) hehe
There are some people that mosquitoes won't bite.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



George Patterson wrote on 12/30/2006 10:04 PM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
The immune system helps the fish from getting the ich, and helps it
from getting as much, and helps it get rid of it, ....

Just like a good immune system keeps you from picking up ticks in the
woods and makes them fall off faster? Dream on.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

There are some people that mosquitoes won't bite
Oh they bite them, they just don't have a reaction to them because of
a very high level of histamine in their body. My wife is one of those
people.

George, I can see this is a subject that is near and dear to your heart.

I will say one thing that I'm not convinced that a tank can be parasite
free.
The best of the best will admit that without inspecting ever inch of a
fishes
scales under a microscope you can't honestly say "parasite-free-tank"
therefore Ich lives on.

Get a few cleaner shrimp, a mated pair of Neon Gobies and use garlic
to keep the vampires away !

Chris

"Wayne Sallee" wrote in message
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But that medicine works good for dogs :-) hehe
There are some people that mosquitoes won't bite.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



George Patterson wrote on 12/30/2006 10:04 PM:
Wayne Sallee wrote:
The immune system helps the fish from getting the ich, and helps it from
getting as much, and helps it get rid of it, ....

Just like a good immune system keeps you from picking up ticks in the
woods and makes them fall off faster? Dream on.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

KurtG wrote:

My tang has been itching itself for weeks/months, and often allows the
4-stripe damsels to "chew" on him. However, he's a nut case anyway, so
I didn't worry about it (maybe a newbie error). Now my Coral Beauty has
some bright white dots on it, and it's starting to itch as well.

Could this be marine itch? Should I isolate these two and treat with
Copper Sulfate? I read that pygmy angles don't handle Copper sulfate
very well.

--Kurt




Sound like cryptocarion irritans (er... or somethging like that is thge
latin name). Problemn is, the parasites are likley free swimming in yer
tank...

I would do a freshwater dip for the fish (take distelled or RO watter,
add buffer to ntach tank PH, het it to tank temp) - add some methylene
blue (never hurts, and helps keep oxygen in the dip) and formalin.

WATCH THGE FISH VERY CLOSELY when you dip them. Try to keep them in for
about 15 minutes, but take them out is they start thrashing or "laying
down".

This should make the white spots go away (possibly as fast as by the end
of the dip)

If the spots go away, then come back, you have an infested tank. You
need to take all fish out for about a month or two to starve the parasites.

George Patterson wrote:

Sounds like ich (oodinimum).

Or it could be crypto. I have seen the two misdiagonsed as eachother
many times.

OOdinium looks more like the fish has been dipped in powdered sugar, but
you still see some distinct spots. Crypto is more distinct white spots,
with amore raised appearance.

TheRock wrote:
Before you transfer your fish to another tank, take everything out so you
can catch them......
Or you can just medicate the water with Kent Rx P Parasite Treatment or
Mardel Fresh & Salt Water Maracide or Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Erythromycin.

What fish do you have again ?


emycin won't do squat for any type of ich, AND it will crash your
biological filtration to boot!

George Patterson wrote:
Wayne Sallee wrote:

The immune system helps the fish from getting the ich, and helps it
from getting as much, and helps it get rid of it, ....


Just like a good immune system keeps you from picking up ticks in the
woods and makes them fall off faster? Dream on.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

Actually, it CAN help a tick fall off faster.

TheRock wrote:
There are some people that mosquitoes won't bite
Oh they bite them, they just don't have a reaction to them because of
a very high level of histamine in their body. My wife is one of those
people.


No, there ARE PLENTY people that mosqiuto's don't bite. Any person that
does not give off CO2 is someone mosquitos will not bite. Buddy of mine
works around folks that are like that all day. He works in the coorner's
office.

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TheRock wrote:
There are some people that mosquitoes won't bite
Oh they bite them, they just don't have a reaction to them because of
a very high level of histamine in their body. My wife is one of those
people.


No, there ARE PLENTY people that mosqiuto's don't bite. Any person that
does not give off CO2 is someone mosquitos will not bite. Buddy of mine
works around folks that are like that all day. He works in the coorner's
office.

LOL !
I was saying this guys is fool of ####
until the punch line. Good one !