Newbie aquarium question

Seek help for your obsession with Carol Roy Tristan, you sick
*******........

"Tristan" wrote in message
...


25 gal is not small for a marine tank. I have a bunch of pico tanks 2
gal or less that have been up and runing for two or more years and do
just fine. I even have a 1 quart PICO with a yasha hasha goby and
pistol shrimp ni it loaded with zoos and shrooms doing just fine. I
have yet another tiny pico tank made with a brandy snifter (less than
a quart) with a panda goby in it doing just fine for over a year now.
If temps can be managed properly, they are not any harder than any
other tank.





On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:25:44 -0500, that *other* annoying little troll
wrote:

wrote:

I just bought a 25gallon aquarium about a week ago and put the
substate
and live rock in it. I haven't put coral and fish in and today I
suddenly found the water turned yellow!

I have pumps (Rio 800) running and using Biological filter calls..
What
do you guys think the problem come from? I changed water (about 60%
change) today but still feel water is yellow. What do you think?
Shall
I do a complete water change?

Thanks!


25 gal is small for a marine tank. Can be done, but it's trickier
with
a small tank like that.

Yellow is from stuff decomposing on the live rock. This happens with
new
live rock. it'll likely get a bit worse befpore it gets better.

Don't put any livestock in before this yellowing clears up. Don't fic
it
by changing the water (not yet anyway) - you will screw up the cycling
if you start changing water thois soon.

You don't mention if you have a skimmer or not. Skimmers are NOT
optional, no matter what you may have heard or been told. You need
one.
Get one. use it. It will pull a lot of the "yellow" out of your water.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Get back on your meds asshole........... leave the sick and elderly alone
you lying scumbag.

"Tristan" wrote in message
...

Yep your assumption is right.


On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:11:34 +0000, Gill Passman
wrote:

George Patterson wrote:

Live rock that has been marinated in water (as you put it) until
nothing
dies anymore is said to be "cured live rock." The curing process
typically involves low light levels, lots of circulation, and large
water changes.

George Patterson
Forgive your enemies. But always remember who they are.

This is my understanding of "cured live rock" as well.....one of the
guys at the lfs was chatting to me about the latest batch of LR that
they had got in and how they were needing to empty the cup on the
Protein Skimmer multiple times a day when usually, after the die off
it
would be daily at most....

I'm guessing from my experience that there was also a certain degree
of
die off when I put the rock into my little 15 gall tank (but much less
than would have happened if the rock hadn't been "cured") - certainly
I
was getting stuff in the cup of the Protein Skimmer without having
anything in the tank other than the LR but this was minimal compared
to
what I get now with fish, corals and inverts in there....

Gill



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Yes I have a 24x7 protein skimmer and the first 2 days it collects some
dark green junk water in it that I poured down the toilet.

I paniclly changed water 100% last week but today the yellow tint stuff
came back! The live rocks are now covered with some yellow stuff that I
don't know the name.

Is this all normal? This time I didnt do water change but use some
bathtissue to wipe the yellow tint off the acrylic. It is better than
last week but I am still worried. Is this normal? The substrate are
covered with brown stuff too.

Thanks!


TheRock wrote:
Your tank is cycling...if you're seriously going to get into this hobby
one thing you need to learn up front is patience. Nothing happens
overnight.

You rock takes months to cure. You should not have changed your water at
all yet.
Do you have a protein skimmer ? While you're curing rock you should be
running a
protein skimmer 24/7 7 days a week. Smells good I bet : )


wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a 25gallon aquarium about a week ago and put the substate
and live rock in it. I haven't put coral and fish in and today I
suddenly found the water turned yellow!

I have pumps (Rio 800) running and using Biological filter calls.. What
do you guys think the problem come from? I changed water (about 60%
change) today but still feel water is yellow. What do you think? Shall
I do a complete water change?

Thanks!

One more thing I forgot to mention: The aquarium has 2 2x65w compact
fluorescent lights that are blue and white. I alternate them during the
day to simulate morning/day/evening and turned lights off in the night.


Also, last night I added some B-IONIC calcium (both No1 and No2) to
improve the calcium level for the live rocks. Would this have anythign
to do with the yellow stuff? Or is it just a coincidence?

wrote:
Yes I have a 24x7 protein skimmer and the first 2 days it collects some
dark green junk water in it that I poured down the toilet.

I paniclly changed water 100% last week but today the yellow tint stuff
came back! The live rocks are now covered with some yellow stuff that I
don't know the name.

Is this all normal? This time I didnt do water change but use some
bathtissue to wipe the yellow tint off the acrylic. It is better than
last week but I am still worried. Is this normal? The substrate are
covered with brown stuff too.

Thanks!


TheRock wrote:
Your tank is cycling...if you're seriously going to get into this hobby
one thing you need to learn up front is patience. Nothing happens
overnight.

You rock takes months to cure. You should not have changed your water at
all yet.
Do you have a protein skimmer ? While you're curing rock you should be
running a
protein skimmer 24/7 7 days a week. Smells good I bet : )


wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a 25gallon aquarium about a week ago and put the substate
and live rock in it. I haven't put coral and fish in and today I
suddenly found the water turned yellow!

I have pumps (Rio 800) running and using Biological filter calls.. What
do you guys think the problem come from? I changed water (about 60%
change) today but still feel water is yellow. What do you think? Shall
I do a complete water change?

Thanks!

You say yellow, but is it more of a golden brown?
Golden brown would be diatoms.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 1/16/2007 11:53 PM:
Yes I have a 24x7 protein skimmer and the first 2 days it collects some
dark green junk water in it that I poured down the toilet.

I paniclly changed water 100% last week but today the yellow tint stuff
came back! The live rocks are now covered with some yellow stuff that I
don't know the name.

Is this all normal? This time I didnt do water change but use some
bathtissue to wipe the yellow tint off the acrylic. It is better than
last week but I am still worried. Is this normal? The substrate are
covered with brown stuff too.

Thanks!


TheRock wrote:
Your tank is cycling...if you're seriously going to get into this hobby
one thing you need to learn up front is patience. Nothing happens
overnight.

You rock takes months to cure. You should not have changed your water at
all yet.
Do you have a protein skimmer ? While you're curing rock you should be
running a
protein skimmer 24/7 7 days a week. Smells good I bet : )


wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a 25gallon aquarium about a week ago and put the substate
and live rock in it. I haven't put coral and fish in and today I
suddenly found the water turned yellow!

I have pumps (Rio 800) running and using Biological filter calls.. What
do you guys think the problem come from? I changed water (about 60%
change) today but still feel water is yellow. What do you think? Shall
I do a complete water change?

Thanks!

It is brownish, closer to the 2nd o color of "Google" logo above. Is it
harmful?

Thanks!
Wayne Sallee wrote:
You say yellow, but is it more of a golden brown?
Golden brown would be diatoms.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 1/16/2007 11:53 PM:
Yes I have a 24x7 protein skimmer and the first 2 days it collects some
dark green junk water in it that I poured down the toilet.

I paniclly changed water 100% last week but today the yellow tint stuff
came back! The live rocks are now covered with some yellow stuff that I
don't know the name.

Is this all normal? This time I didnt do water change but use some
bathtissue to wipe the yellow tint off the acrylic. It is better than
last week but I am still worried. Is this normal? The substrate are
covered with brown stuff too.

Thanks!


TheRock wrote:
Your tank is cycling...if you're seriously going to get into this hobby
one thing you need to learn up front is patience. Nothing happens
overnight.

You rock takes months to cure. You should not have changed your water at
all yet.
Do you have a protein skimmer ? While you're curing rock you should be
running a
protein skimmer 24/7 7 days a week. Smells good I bet : )


wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a 25gallon aquarium about a week ago and put the substate
and live rock in it. I haven't put coral and fish in and today I
suddenly found the water turned yellow!

I have pumps (Rio 800) running and using Biological filter calls.. What
do you guys think the problem come from? I changed water (about 60%
change) today but still feel water is yellow. What do you think? Shall
I do a complete water change?

Thanks!

No it's not harmful. It's just diatoms.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 1/17/2007 12:25 AM:
It is brownish, closer to the 2nd o color of "Google" logo above. Is it
harmful?

Thanks!
Wayne Sallee wrote:
You say yellow, but is it more of a golden brown?
Golden brown would be diatoms.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 1/16/2007 11:53 PM:
Yes I have a 24x7 protein skimmer and the first 2 days it collects some
dark green junk water in it that I poured down the toilet.

I paniclly changed water 100% last week but today the yellow tint stuff
came back! The live rocks are now covered with some yellow stuff that I
don't know the name.

Is this all normal? This time I didnt do water change but use some
bathtissue to wipe the yellow tint off the acrylic. It is better than
last week but I am still worried. Is this normal? The substrate are
covered with brown stuff too.

Thanks!


TheRock wrote:
Your tank is cycling...if you're seriously going to get into this hobby
one thing you need to learn up front is patience. Nothing happens
overnight.

You rock takes months to cure. You should not have changed your water at
all yet.
Do you have a protein skimmer ? While you're curing rock you should be
running a
protein skimmer 24/7 7 days a week. Smells good I bet : )


wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a 25gallon aquarium about a week ago and put the substate
and live rock in it. I haven't put coral and fish in and today I
suddenly found the water turned yellow!

I have pumps (Rio 800) running and using Biological filter calls.. What
do you guys think the problem come from? I changed water (about 60%
change) today but still feel water is yellow. What do you think? Shall
I do a complete water change?

Thanks!

Thanks! I wiped the brown stuff from the acrylic and so far they
haven't come back in 2 days. The water is still clear and I just put in
some polyps I bought.

One more dummie question, do polyps retract their soft 'arms' in
shippment (mine is bought from ebay and shipping took 2 days)? This
morning I started to see some red and green things growing. How long
will they grow to be like 1inch long?

Thank you.

Wayne Sallee wrote:
No it's not harmful. It's just diatoms.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 1/17/2007 12:25 AM:
It is brownish, closer to the 2nd o color of "Google" logo above. Is it
harmful?

Thanks!
Wayne Sallee wrote:
You say yellow, but is it more of a golden brown?
Golden brown would be diatoms.

Wayne Sallee
Wayne's Pets



wrote on 1/16/2007 11:53 PM:
Yes I have a 24x7 protein skimmer and the first 2 days it collects some
dark green junk water in it that I poured down the toilet.

I paniclly changed water 100% last week but today the yellow tint stuff
came back! The live rocks are now covered with some yellow stuff that I
don't know the name.

Is this all normal? This time I didnt do water change but use some
bathtissue to wipe the yellow tint off the . It is better than
last week but I am still worried. Is this normal? The substrate are
covered with brown stuff too.

Thanks!


TheRock wrote:
Your tank is cycling...if you're seriously going to get into this hobby
one thing you need to learn up front is patience. Nothing happens
overnight.

You rock takes months to cure. You should not have changed your water at
all yet.
Do you have a protein skimmer ? While you're curing rock you should be
running a
protein skimmer 24/7 7 days a week. Smells good I bet : )


wrote in message
ups.com...
I just bought a 25gallon aquarium about a week ago and put the substate
and live rock in it. I haven't put coral and fish in and today I
suddenly found the water turned yellow!

I have pumps (Rio 800) running and using Biological filter calls.. What
do you guys think the problem come from? I changed water (about 60%
change) today but still feel water is yellow. What do you think? Shall
I do a complete water change?

Thanks!

wrote:


One more dummie question, do polyps retract their soft 'arms' in
shippment (mine is bought from ebay and shipping took 2 days)? This
morning I started to see some red and green things growing. How long
will they grow to be like 1inch long?


Whenever I've bought any at my LFS they retract in transit (maybe in
fear from my driving - lol) - the longest I've waited was around 6 weeks
with some Green Star Polyps, who just hated the water conditions (trace
of phosphate) - once I fixed the problem they slowly started emerging
again....the normal for me has been a day or so....

What sort of corals are they? The growth rate will depend on the type of
coral and your water conditions....

Gill (another newbie)

They're red zoanthids and and green bay packers zoanthids (what a cool
name for this one). Well, I guess I will give it some patience..

Gill Passman wrote:
wrote:


One more dummie question, do polyps retract their soft 'arms' in
shippment (mine is bought from ebay and shipping took 2 days)? This
morning I started to see some red and green things growing. How long
will they grow to be like 1inch long?


Whenever I've bought any at my LFS they retract in transit (maybe in
fear from my driving - lol) - the longest I've waited was around 6 weeks
with some Green Star Polyps, who just hated the water conditions (trace
of phosphate) - once I fixed the problem they slowly started emerging
again....the normal for me has been a day or so....

What sort of corals are they? The growth rate will depend on the type of
coral and your water conditions....

Gill (another newbie)