It never ends

"Tristan" wrote in message
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You need help Roy Tristan Hauer. Prozac can help you get over your
obsession with me and professional
counseling can help you get over using personal attacks and slander as an
ego builder. Talk to
your Dr at the VA hospital about the proper medications to help you. You
can live a
normal life free of hate, lies, feelings of inferiority and obsessions but
you must make an
effort to help yourself.

--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"Tynk" wrote in message
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On Jan 28, 2:00?pm, "cat daddy" wrote:
"Dan White" wrote in
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any ammonia or not. Water treatment plants add ammonia in the final
stage to turn chlorine
into chloramine. But, I think the author of the article probably just
mixed
up and misquoted what the professor was saying....- Hide quoted text --
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I didn't misquote the professor, and he did say other things that were
bogus as well. One other thing was running a tank filled with tap
water for a minimum of 2-3 weeks before adding fish. What for?
That one should add sea shells oyster shells to a tank to act like a
buffer and keep the water slightly more alkaline.
You just can't toss out general comments like that when everybody's
water is different. Some folks have hard, alkaline water anyway and do
not need to make it even more so.
And from what I know, adding sea shells is *not* something you want to
add to a freshwater tank anyway.
I've kept the article and have written to 2 different people from the
paper asking to whome and where do I send an article about setting up
a tank and correcting some things that were said that weren't correct.
It's already afternoon and I haven't gotten a response yet.

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I was referring to the journalist who wrote the news article as possibly
misquoting the professor or editing important info. Dave already gave you
the info that I didn't include, because I was just addressing the ammonia in
tap water issue. Dr. Lewis is, in fact, a retired professor emeritus with 38
years on the faculty at A&M.

On Jan 29, 2:29�pm, Z�bulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in ooglegroups.com...

Zëbulon wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
news

The Prof has one thing right.... an awful lot of people set up a tank
and
add fish the same day.....
==============================
There's nothing wrong with that as long as a dechlorinator is used. *Or
something to remove the chloromines (sp?).There can be a lot wrong with that. Without details of how many fish
were added, the tank's size, which types were added, and how not to
kill them in the cycling process,
*but that they will be damaged
anyway, etc,...you can run into major problems. So yeah, there is
something wrong with that.
=============================
*That's not what we were discussing. *We were discussing if fish can be
added the FIRST day and the answer is yes. Please reread the message. *But
even if you knew that, you will always disagree with anything I post for
some reason. *Is it your ego perhaps?

Seeing as you constantly like to argue and nit pick anything I say...
You simply commented about there being nothing wrong with adding fish
on the first day of setting up the tank, *without* giving any other
details, it can be wrong. It can go very wrong. That was the entire
POINT of replying to what you said.
There is no ego trip here lady! Stop trying to cause argument after
argumment with me.
It gets so old. No wonder all these other people constantly harrass
you!
I do not always disagree with you. You are acting like a 15 yr old
little girl when you say things like that.
I have recommended you on many occasions when it concerns Goldies, and
I have agreed with many th ings you have said in the past. However, if
it's wrong, too vague, or is missing information I, or somebody else
will fix it for you.
Stop your whining.
No one want to hear it.
Have your tantrums elsewhere or take it to email directly. It doesn't
belong here.

On Jan 29, 5:51�pm, "cat daddy" wrote:
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* *I was referring to the journalist who wrote the news article as possibly
misquoting the professor or editing important info. Dave already gave you
the info that I didn't include, because I was just addressing the ammonia in
tap water issue. Dr. Lewis is, in fact, a retired professor emeritus with 38
years on the faculty at A&M.

Ah, ok.
I emailed the university about this.
I am waiting for a reply from them as well as from the newspaper.
I said in my email to the university how I read in the local paper,
(gave the name and the publisher) and the link that Dave gave me as
well.
I mentioned that the good Dr. wasn't on staff anymore (I checked all
over the place to see if he changed positions too), and that if it was
possible to get the Dr.'s orginal paper or information.
I would SO hope that the person/s who wrote about a "slimey tank" was
just an idiot and didn't put all of the Dr.s words in his piece, but
that right there is a problem, as it left out or changed viable
information.
Now after the mail came today I received my March Issue of Tropical
Fish Hobbyist.
In their Q & A's section somebody wrote in about how his male Betta
just about killed the single female Betta and how could they keep them
together.
The author wrote back YOU CAN'T keep a male and female together, etc.
This new person took over for the usual man that had done the Q & A's
and I don't like many of this person's answers.
All too often much to vague, or darn right not right!
Let me tell ya....they don't exactly like being told they're
wrong...being a fish magazine and all, but sometimes they are.
I've said it a million times over the years. People who will say you
cannot house them together period, are just too lazy to go into it in
detail.
It can be done. Very often. However, there are many variables and must
have's that must be met in order to do so.
All too often people are just repeating myths that they've heard from
lazy people.
It comes from Bettas who are in too small tanks, or personality
clashes, to overly aggressive male OR females.
This author made it seem that the males will always go after a non
spawning ready female. Not the case in reality. Of course it can
happen...but it's not the norm.
::glances over at the 75g with 13 females and a resident Crowntail
male all living in perfect harmony::
Yeah....it can't ever be done. Luckily many Bettas haven't read that
or don't speak human! I've been housing them like this for the past 29
yrs and have only had a few exceptions where it didn't work. Mostly,
those were females being nasty. Not the male.
www.tfhmagazine.com if anyone want to send an email. Subject line:Q &
A's
Then in the body write letter to the editor, as it says in the
magazine to put (Q&A) in the subject line to get past the spam
filters.

Carol will nit pik with God, the devil or her own image in a mirrow.
Its her nature, she has to focus "all" of "amnything" to herself or
she would dry up and blow away..Its part of being an attention whore.


On 29 Jan 2007 20:36:04 -0800, "Tynk" wrote:



On Jan 29, 2:29?pm, Z?bulon wrote:
"Tynk" wrote in ooglegroups.com...

Z?lon wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
news
The Prof has one thing right.... an awful lot of people set up a tank
and
add fish the same day.....
==============================
There's nothing wrong with that as long as a dechlorinator is used. r
something to remove the chloromines (sp?).There can be a lot wrong with that. Without details of how many fish
were added, the tank's size, which types were added, and how not to
kill them in the cycling process,
"ut that they will be damaged
anyway, etc,...you can run into major problems. So yeah, there is
something wrong with that.
=============================
hat's not what we were discussing. e were discussing if fish can be
added the FIRST day and the answer is yes. Please reread the message.
ut
even if you knew that, you will always disagree with anything I post for
some reason. s it your ego perhaps?

Seeing as you constantly like to argue and nit pick anything I say...
You simply commented about there being nothing wrong with adding fish
on the first day of setting up the tank, *without* giving any other
details, it can be wrong. It can go very wrong. That was the entire
POINT of replying to what you said.
There is no ego trip here lady! Stop trying to cause argument after
argumment with me.
It gets so old. No wonder all these other people constantly harrass
you!
I do not always disagree with you. You are acting like a 15 yr old
little girl when you say things like that.
I have recommended you on many occasions when it concerns Goldies, and
I have agreed with many th ings you have said in the past. However, if
it's wrong, too vague, or is missing information I, or somebody else
will fix it for you.
Stop your whining.
No one want to hear it.
Have your tantrums elsewhere or take it to email directly. It doesn't
belong here.



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I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

"Tynk" wrote in message
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Then in the body write letter to the editor, as it says in the
magazine to put (Q&A) in the subject line to get past the spam
filters.
====================
Their space is limited and probably their time. They give the quickest
answer they can without using all the space allotted them on one long
detailed reply.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
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"Tynk" wrote in message
oups.com...


Zbulon wrote:
=============================
That's not what we were discussing. We were discussing if fish can be
added the FIRST day and the answer is yes. Please reread the message. But
even if you knew that, you will always disagree with anything I post for
some reason. Is it your ego perhaps?
=================================
Seeing as you constantly like to argue and nit pick anything I say...
You simply commented about there being nothing wrong with adding fish
on the first day of setting up the tank, *without* giving any other
details, it can be wrong. It can go very wrong. That was the entire
POINT of replying to what you said.
There is no ego trip here lady! Stop trying to cause argument after
argumment with me.
==========================
Stop constantly harassing and nit-picking everything I post. I've added
fish the day I filled tanks probably hundreds of times over the years so
YES - fish can be added the first day! I seldom reply to any of your
messages but you're constantly on my case. *FISH CAN BE ADDED THE FIRST
DAY.* People do it all the time. I'm sorry if it doesn't work for you as
it works for so many others. What works for some may not work for all. You
can't seem to comprehend what that means. God help anyone who disagrees
with you!

It gets so old. No wonder all these other people constantly harrass
you!

All the "other people" besides YOU are Roy Tristan Hauer who suffers from a
serious mental disorder he refuses to address.

Your usual rude self-righteous personal attacks snipped
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Carol will nit pik with God, the devil or her own image in a mirrow.
Its her nature, she has to focus "all" of "amnything" to herself or
she would dry up and blow away..Its part of being an attention whore.
==============
You need to get back to the VA hospital so you can get past me and Ed and
lead a more normal life.
--
ZB....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
My Pond & Aquarium Pages:
http://tinyurl.com/9do58
~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({*

"Zëbulon" wrote in message
...

"Tristan" wrote in message
...
Carol will nit pik with God, the devil or her own image in a mirrow.
Its her nature, she has to focus "all" of "amnything" to herself or
she would dry up and blow away..Its part of being an attention whore.
==============
You need to get back to the VA hospital so you can get past me and Ed and
lead a more normal life.
--
ZB....


Sounds more like you two should get a room.

--
-Don
Ever had one of those days where you just felt like:
http://cosmoslair.com/BadDay.html ?
(Eating the elephant outside the box, one paradigm at a time)

On Jan 30, 1:37�pm, Z�bulon wrote:
(Snipped for crap and drama once again)

Seeing as you constantly like to argue and nit pick anything I say...
You simply commented about there being nothing wrong with adding fish
on the first day of setting up the tank, *without* giving any other
details, it can be wrong. It can go very wrong. That was the entire
POINT of replying to what you said.

*I've added
fish the day I filled tanks probably hundreds of times over the years so
YES - fish can be added the first day! *I seldom reply to any of your
messages but you're constantly on my case. **FISH CAN BE ADDED THE FIRST
DAY.* *People do it all the time. *I'm sorry if it doesn't work for you as
it works for so many others. What works for some may not work for all. *You
can't seem to comprehend what that means.


Ok..once again let me try and explain this. This is NOT anything
againt YOU, although you will find it to be somehow, just as you did
the reply to you in the first place.
It has nothing to do with not being *able* (keyword) to add fish the
first day a tank is set up. It does not matter if *you*, or anyone has
done it a gazzillion times before. By *only* (keyword) saying "there's
*nothing wrong* with adding fish the first day" *without* (another
keyword) giving any other details of what can go wrong, it can be a
bad thing.
Again, and as usual it has nothing to do with what works for you may
not work for others (You really like that excuse don't you...even when
it has nothing to do with the conversation). It doesn't matter who
does it. Without further information, especially for a newbie that may
have read that, they may think it's fine to stock a tank the first day
it's set up and that there are no special things that need to be done
in order to keep those fish alive. Not to mention the fact their gills
will become burned from the rising ammonia levels, new tank syndrome
and common deaths from it, needing extra water changes and doing
gravel vacs, lightly feeding, and especially only doing with a couple
of fish.
The entire point of the original reply to you was because you didn't
bother to take the time to explain any of that.
What you said was much too vague and had absolutely no information
along with it.
Again you want to argue about stupid stuff here, where it doesn't
belong.
So real slow for you....
T H I S I S N O T A P E R S O N A L A T T A C K A G A I N S T Y
O U !!
Y O U L E F T O U T V I T A L I N F O R M A T I O N!
T H A T ' S A L L !
No quit already!
Get passed it!